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1. kossae ◴[] No.42136720[source]
On the hiring side of this, we receive a _ton_ of resumes that have no experience in the technologies we're hiring for. Each day there are 5-10 automated resume submissions to our job portal for a single position, and we're a fairly small company. Perhaps hiring managers are both being (more) selective and becoming overloaded with the amount of AI/recruiter-sanitized resumes coming in as well.
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2. willsmith72 ◴[] No.42136812[source]
Yes it absolutely goes both ways. The amount of crap coming in is astonishing (as in, data analyst with 2 years in python applying for senior frontend engineer, or being on the other side of the world with no mention of visa/immigration)
3. ragle ◴[] No.42137701[source]
The other side of this challenge is that the "technology" is mostly irrelevant for above-average applicants with solid CS chops.

I apply for lots of jobs featuring technologies I haven't used (beyond toy personal projects or something in college) because I have a long history of picking up new tools and being productive in weeks or months at most - because I understand the underlying semantics of the tool regardless of its presentation, syntax, etc.

Keyword scanners (and humans focused on keywords) are unable to hire me for roles where I haven't used the technology (much) before - and I guess that's fine and well as I am indistinguishable on paper from someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

Just presenting it as another part of the challenge of both finding good people and for good people finding good jobs.

4. underlipton ◴[] No.42137765[source]
>we receive a _ton_ of resumes that have no experience in the technologies we're hiring for.

No one wants to train employees anymore.

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5. JAlexoid ◴[] No.42141615[source]
You're right... Companies should pay mid 6 figures, as well as downtime for training.

Short answer is that most corporations don't have a job in training people.

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6. underlipton ◴[] No.42143155{3}[source]
I can't tell if you're being facetious or not, but the fact is that, when Boomers and Gen Xers entered the workforce, formal training was provided for many entry-level professional positions, and even for higher junior-level ones. This was particularly so when the company was using unusual or uncommon technology. GP was complaining that "no one has any experience in our technologies." That speaks to an underlying entitlement, not just to employees' time, but to prospective employees' time. It's part of a broader shift of the cost of doing business onto everyone but the business (labor, customers, vendors, government).

Companies should pay what it costs to get people to give up a significant portion of their lives working towards their business mission, or else get out of the business.