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joshdavham ◴[] No.42129395[source]
I'm really curious to see where higher education will go now that we have LLM's. I imagine the bar will just keep getting higher and more will be able to taught in less time.

Are there any students here who started uni just before LLM's took off and are now finishing their degrees? Have you noticed much change in how your classes are taught?

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risyachka ◴[] No.42129440[source]
After calculators were invented basically no one can can do math in their head.

I’d argue the bar will be lower and lower. Yeah those who want can learn more in less time. But those who don’t - will learn much less.

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WalterBright ◴[] No.42129534[source]
I've noticed that people who rely on calculators have great difficulty recognizing when their answers are off by a factor of 10.

I know a hiring manager who asks his (engineering) candidates what is 20% of 20,000? It's amazing how many engineers are completely unable to do this without a calculator. He said they often cry. Of course, they're all "no hire".

How did they get a degree, one wonders?

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l33t7332273 ◴[] No.42129770[source]
This is a sort of mental math trick that isn’t incredibly useful in day to day engineering. Now if they say 16,000 or something then maybe there’s an argument against them, but being able to calculate a tip on the fly isn’t really something worth selecting for imo
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WalterBright ◴[] No.42129849[source]
It's not a "trick".

And yes, it's incredibly useful in enabling recognizing when your calculator gives a bogus result because you made a keyboarding error. When you've got zero feel for numbers, you're going to make bad engineering decisions. You'll also get screwed by car dealers every time, and contractors. You won't know how far you can go with the gas in your tank.

It goes on and on.

Calculators are great for getting an exact final answer. But you'd better already know approximately what the answer should be.

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1. boredhedgehog ◴[] No.42134118[source]
> recognizing when your calculator gives a bogus result because you made a keyboarding error

It might be counterintuitive, but the cheaper (and therefore successful) solution will always be more technological integration, not less.

In this case, better speech recognition, so the user doesn't have to type the numbers anymore, and an LLM middleman that's aware of the real-world context of the question, so the user can be asked if he's sure about the number before it gets passed to the calculator.