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grahamj ◴[] No.42132931[source]
Hey China, could you just like, you know, not do that? That'd be cool.

Thanks!

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jumping_frog ◴[] No.42133087[source]
I will just leave this here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_wiretapping_case_2004%E2...

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1. knowaveragejoe ◴[] No.42133177[source]
Is this a whataboutism?
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2. jumping_frog ◴[] No.42133487[source]
Friends don't treat friends like this.
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3. 0dayz ◴[] No.42134324[source]
Then we should never be friends with China?
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4. coretx ◴[] No.42136517[source]
They do, they just care less when it's friends doing it. 5-eyes did the same with the entire European parliament. The incident response & reporting ( clean up crew ) was done by a firm who got sold to a British intelligence daughter not much afterwards. You can't make this shit up. Another famous example would be from the previous cold war era. Dutch telephony routers had Hebrew manuals so they required personnel from Israel for "maintenance". They wiretapped the whole country.
5. coretx ◴[] No.42136536{3}[source]
Nation states don't have friends. They have interests.
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6. 0dayz ◴[] No.42138816{4}[source]
Friends are a form of interest, so why try and separate the two?
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7. coretx ◴[] No.42144197{5}[source]
Because nation states are socio/psycho-paths.
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8. 0dayz ◴[] No.42155562{6}[source]
So by definition every state is this?

How exactly would we know this?