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SilverBirch ◴[] No.42055201[source]
I’d still like a decent first fpga. Guys? I’m still here guys! Please make me some FPGAs!
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jsheard ◴[] No.42055214[source]
Sorry, you can have a cheap-ish FPGA that came out 10 years ago, or a new FPGA that costs more than your car and requires a $3000 software license to even program. Those are the only options allowed.
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1. schmidtleonard ◴[] No.42055537[source]
Nah, the hobby strat is to buy a chunk o' circuit board and learn BGA soldering. "Chip Recovery," they call it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235469964291

Best start believin' in the crazy cyberpunk stories. You're in one!

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2. jsheard ◴[] No.42055565[source]
Virtex UltraScales require Vivado EE so you'd still need the $3000 license to do anything with it :(

edit: legally that is, assuming there's even enough demand for these tools for anyone to bother cracking them

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3. immibis ◴[] No.42055588[source]
(legally)
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4. schmidtleonard ◴[] No.42055892[source]
This is sofware written by hardware guys. Cracking it is the easy part. Then you have to make it work...
5. NavinF ◴[] No.42055966{3}[source]
Is Vivado easy to pirate? Now I'm interested
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6. 15155 ◴[] No.42056535{4}[source]
Yes, or you can just keep getting a trial license.
7. tecleandor ◴[] No.42061071[source]
OMG, price per one new unit of those XCVU095 varies form 4k to 35k depending on the store. The variability!

Where are they pulling those PCB chunks from that have cheap Ultrascale+ chips?