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    AMD outsells Intel in the datacenter space

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    499 points baal80spam | 14 comments | 05 Nov 24 19:27 UTC | HN request time: 1.428s | source | bottom
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    SilverBirch ◴[05 Nov 24 21:11 UTC] No.42055201[source]▶
    I’d still like a decent first fpga. Guys? I’m still here guys! Please make me some FPGAs!
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    1. jsheard ◴[05 Nov 24 21:13 UTC] No.42055214[source]▶
    Sorry, you can have a cheap-ish FPGA that came out 10 years ago, or a new FPGA that costs more than your car and requires a $3000 software license to even program. Those are the only options allowed.
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    2. Neywiny ◴[05 Nov 24 21:22 UTC] No.42055281[source]▶
    The new COP FPGAs are in the $100-400 range. Not cheap but nothing compared to the high end parts.
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    3. RF_Savage ◴[05 Nov 24 21:32 UTC] No.42055355[source]▶
    So Intel has abandoned the sub-100usd segment to AMD/Xilinx, Lattice, Efinix and Microchip?
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    4. bgnn ◴[05 Nov 24 21:53 UTC] No.42055521{3}[source]▶
    Luckily they are spinning off the FPGA business to be Altera again
    5. schmidtleonard ◴[05 Nov 24 21:57 UTC] No.42055537[source]▶
    Nah, the hobby strat is to buy a chunk o' circuit board and learn BGA soldering. "Chip Recovery," they call it.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/235469964291

    Best start believin' in the crazy cyberpunk stories. You're in one!

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    6. jsheard ◴[05 Nov 24 22:01 UTC] No.42055565[source]▶
    Virtex UltraScales require Vivado EE so you'd still need the $3000 license to do anything with it :(

    edit: legally that is, assuming there's even enough demand for these tools for anyone to bother cracking them

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    7. immibis ◴[05 Nov 24 22:03 UTC] No.42055588{3}[source]▶
    (legally)
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    8. schmidtleonard ◴[05 Nov 24 22:51 UTC] No.42055892{3}[source]▶
    This is sofware written by hardware guys. Cracking it is the easy part. Then you have to make it work...
    9. NavinF ◴[05 Nov 24 23:02 UTC] No.42055966{4}[source]▶
    Is Vivado easy to pirate? Now I'm interested
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    10. Neywiny ◴[05 Nov 24 23:16 UTC] No.42056042{3}[source]▶
    The COP is AMD/Xilinx. I have no idea what the agilex 3 and 5 costs are, I'm not an Altera user. I will note though, having used Lattice, Microchip, and (admittedly at the start of Titanium) Efinix, none of the tools come close to Vivado/Vitis. I'm on lattice at the moment and I've lost countless hours to the tools not working or working poorly on Linux relative to Xilinx. Hobbyist me doesn't care, I'll sink the hours in. Employee me does care, though.
    11. namibj ◴[05 Nov 24 23:52 UTC] No.42056252{3}[source]▶
    There's also Cologne Chip.
    12. 15155 ◴[06 Nov 24 00:54 UTC] No.42056535{5}[source]▶
    Yes, or you can just keep getting a trial license.
    13. 15155 ◴[06 Nov 24 00:55 UTC] No.42056538[source]▶
    Buy a Xilinx U50C or U55 (C1100) - neither require a Vivado license and both have HBM/many LUTs (VU35P chips.) Neither will exceed $1500.
    14. tecleandor ◴[06 Nov 24 12:22 UTC] No.42061071[source]▶
    OMG, price per one new unit of those XCVU095 varies form 4k to 35k depending on the store. The variability!

    Where are they pulling those PCB chunks from that have cheap Ultrascale+ chips?