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jsnell ◴[] No.42055205[source]
I don't know that 37Signals counts as a "major enterprise". Their Cloud exodus can't have been more than a few dozen servers, right?

Meanwhile AWS is growing at 20%/year, Azure at 33% and GCP at 35%. That doesn't seem compatible with any kind of major cloud repatriation trend.

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WaxProlix ◴[] No.42055237[source]
How much of that is what technologists would consider "cloud" (IAAS, PAAS) versus what someone on the business side of things would consider "cloud" - office365, google gsuite, etc?
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1. tiffanyh ◴[] No.42055267[source]
Given that AWS is doing $100B in annual revenue and still growing at 17% YoY ... and they do NOT have a collaboration suite (office/gsuite) - it'd say at least for AWS it's nearly all IaaS/PaaS.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/01/amazon_q1_2024/

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2. gonzo41 ◴[] No.42055288[source]
I'd agree on IaaS/PaaS being the main driver. Id guess that everyone is running away from serverless offerings from all the main cloud providers. It's just day 1 lock in to a platform with no shared standards. It's very uncompetitive and kind of slow to innovate.
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3. discodave ◴[] No.42055344[source]
Amazon loves it when you run idle EC2 instances ($$$) rather than using Lambda.

Most real workloads I've seen (at 3 startups, and several teams at Amazon) have utilization under 10%.

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4. exabrial ◴[] No.42055404[source]
Not to naysay, any idea of that includes their own website? Just curious. I don’t az itself is the largest aws customer anymore.
5. jiggawatts ◴[] No.42055601[source]
We’re migrating over a hundred apps to Azure App Service.

One has an issue with the platform-enforced HTTP timeout maximum values.

I migrated that app back to a VM in an hour.

It turns out that the “integration” for something like App Service (or CloudRun or whatever) is mostly just best practices for any kind of hosting: parameters read from environment variables, immutable binaries with external config, stateless servers, read only web app folders, monitoring with APMs, etc…

Sure, you’ll experience lockin if you use Durable Functions or the similar Lambda features… but no worse than any other workflow or business rules platform.

Ask people how easy it is to get off BizTalk or MuleSoft…

6. _heimdall ◴[] No.42056840{3}[source]
That's really where you see that no answer is right across the board.

I worked at a very small startup years ago that leaned heavily on EC2. Our usage was pretty bipolar, the service was along the lines of a real-time game so we either had a very heavy work load or nothing. We stood up EC2 instances when games were lice and wound them down after.

We did use Lambda for a few things, mainly APIs that were rarely used or for processing jobs in an event queue.

Serverless has its place for sure, but in my experience it have been heavily over used the last 3-5 years.

7. travem ◴[] No.42057599[source]
It may not be as popular but they do have Amazon WorkDocs

> Amazon WorkDocs is a document storage, collaboration, and sharing system. Amazon WorkDocs is fully managed, secure, and enterprise scale.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/workdocs/latest/developerguide/w...

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8. bobnamob ◴[] No.42057822[source]
I weep for Amazon leadership, forcing themselves to use workdocs over quip is self sabotage imo
9. Dylan16807 ◴[] No.42060139{3}[source]
I think the solution to that problem is usually to have fewer and smaller EC2 instances.

And you only need to get utilization up to like 15% to make reserved instances significantly better than lambda.

10. ghaering ◴[] No.42074883[source]
This service has been discontinued recently, with a bunch of others that lacked adoption from customers.