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not_a_bot_4sho ◴[] No.41978402[source]
Funny story. I used to see Steve almost every weekday for a couple of years.

I can't speak to his business skills, but I can attest that he never once offered a tip for his daily black iced tea. We'd even have it ready for him before he showed up so he never had to wait! He would pay with cash, and I'd hand him his change and drink, and that was that.

It's funny to me now: one of the richest men in the world and he never once offered a tip.

Frugality aside, he was always very polite and warm so I can't be mad. Makes for a good ice breaker story.

Edit: holy moly, this is a sensitive subject. Please remember this was from a time before tipflation. Tipping meant you left your change behind once in a while only if you felt the desire to show appreciation. It wasn't an obligation. Yes, I still do think it's a funny story. Roast me for being entitled lol

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unixhero ◴[] No.41978639[source]
Tipping for a convenience item at the till really really sucks. Am I the only one sane on this? Best regards Norway
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skyyler ◴[] No.41978684[source]
It does suck.

But in this culture that Steve exists within, those positions are paid mostly by tips. He certainly could afford to help out the people that prepared his iced tea ritual for him in a timely manner, but he did not.

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itake ◴[] No.41978803[source]
> But in this culture that Steve exists within, those positions are paid mostly by tips.

False. Presumably this was in WA, employers have to pay full wages. there is no carve out "tipped" wage (most) of the rest of the USA has. Currently, min wage in Redmond (King County) is $20.29/hr.

Many businesses in King County do not allow tipping.

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thatfrenchguy ◴[] No.41978817[source]
Minimum wage != Prevailing wage in that occupation
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1. skyyler ◴[] No.41978830[source]
>Currently, min wage in Redmond (King County) is $20.29/hr.

I'd love to know if that is a livable wage in King County.

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2. itake ◴[] No.41979118[source]
My gripe with "living wage" is the term (to me) is too subjective.

MIT's living wage [0] seems to include car ownership (despite King county having a decent public transit system and I know several people that don't have cars working in tech). My first place in a great part of town was $1,400/mo in a roomshare. The podments are as low as $750/mo, but MIT says you need at least $2k/mo.

[0] - https://livingwage.mit.edu/counties/53033

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3. locusofself ◴[] No.41979551[source]
I live in Redmond. A decent house is 1.2 million dollars here.
4. skyyler ◴[] No.41997313[source]
>My gripe with "living wage" is the term (to me) is too subjective.

Yes, what is considered "livable" varies wildly from person to person.