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WalterBright ◴[] No.41892704[source]
It's too bad that Elon Musk and Kelly Johnson never met. Both are engineers' engineers doing impossible things, and I bet they would have had a blast.
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defrost ◴[] No.41892758[source]
One is a qualified engineer with a Bachelor's and Master's Degree in Aeronautical Engineering and demonstrated hands on ability designing and building complex new designs, the other manages Engineers with a "Physics for Business Majors" unit and a Homer Simpson approach to practicality.

Hats off to the Engineers Engineers that Engineered the chopsticks catch, there were quite a few getting into the technical weeds:

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F2...

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WalterBright ◴[] No.41892822[source]
Yes, anyone could have done what Musk did. But only Musk did it.

P.S. I've read full length biographies of both, and am an ME/AE engineer myself. I think I have at least some grasp of what they have accomplished.

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gradschoolfail ◴[] No.41892980[source]
May the gods of equanimity forgive my snarky intrusion.. if a bit-hacker gets into a fight [bitva] with a it-hacker, i’m ever only going to side with the it-hacker (even if the elite ex-it-hacker bit-hacker has a history of lauding (/laundering the reps of reputed) it-hackers..

I dont know what the general solution is here.. make sure (organizational) Hierarchies are as fluid as the Recompense (including, by reputation) & Responsibilties, i suppose

nu_H = nu_RR

where nu has units of viscosity

Failing so, i’d prefer to defer judgement after we’ve had blood samples from both Kelly n Musk. (For lead, fluoride, other psychoactives etc)

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082349872349872 ◴[] No.41897578[source]
what about volume viscosity? or did "fluid" imply incompressible Hierarchies?

(IMX rapidly expanding Hierarchies do not [pace Landau] relax on a negligible time scale)

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gradschoolfail ◴[] No.41899352[source]
Compressible is the usual case, no? Non-negligible timescales are fine in my book.. (probably in yours too, if you believe that turning a low trust society into a high trust society one is possible, by injecting a something or other)

Length scales are impt too, we are obsessed with highly localized organizations like Musk’s (other than X) & Kelly’s because they seem so effective but the most insidious ones tend to rely on (the discrepancy bewtween?) long (or even mid) range info/materiel exchanges..

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gradschoolfail ◴[] No.41900198[source]
Oops by “Faraday” i meant “Franklin” cofather of the french revolution, not the anglo revolution..

(Wuz thinking how the revolutionary structures (i.e. artillery stds?) were mostly already in place for decades before NB)

Q: how did these not diffuse to french navy? [Boudriot-Berti]?

L? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17498577

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082349872349872 ◴[] No.41947667[source]
Yet another Lasalle anecdote:

> ...j’espérais remplacer le général Dahlmann, colonel de vos guides. » L’Empereur répondit : « Quand le général Lasalle ne jurera plus et ne fumera plus, non seulement je le mettrai à la tête d’un régiment de cavalerie de ma garde, mais je le ferai un de mes chambellans. » Le général Lasalle s’inclina et dit à l’Empereur : « Sire, puisque j’ai toutes les qualités d’un marin, je demande à Votre Majesté le commandement d’une frégate...

(Lasalle hopes for a promotion, but the Emperor tells him if he quits swearing and quits smoking he'll not only get the promotion but become a chamberlain as well. Lasalle responds, "As I have all the qualities of a sailor, why don't you put me in charge of a frigate?")

More seriously, today I learned two ways to say "legacy code" in chinese, of which I suspect 问题代码 to be more polite, and 屎山代码 somewhat less.

Poking around in https://zh.wikisource.org/wiki/三民主義/民權主義第五講 I found another trichotomy, just a little less cynical than Rao's:

  SYS     Gervais       SYS example
  ------  -----------   --------------
  先知先覺 psychopaths   civil engineer
  後知後覺 clueless      foreman
  不知不覺 losers        workmen
Not being a fellow of the AEI, 孙逸仙 argued for wide allocation:

> 都是靠這三種人,無論是缺少了那一種人都是不可能的。... 先知先覺的人要有一份,後知後覺的人要有一份,就是不知不覺的人也要有一份。

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1. gradschoolfail ◴[] No.41963562[source]
Ok i need to read that. Without context 不知不覺 => old man Nakayama sneering at children