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sirolimus ◴[] No.41896949[source]
It’s incredibly sad to see threat actors attack something as altruistic as an internet library. Truly demoralizing to see such degeneracy.
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xyst ◴[] No.41897980[source]
Blame bad leadership.
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callc ◴[] No.41898098[source]
Is there a reason to blame the victim, rather than the attackers?

I’m asking seriously - did IA do shitty things that make them a worthy cause for politically/ideologically motivated hacking?

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lolinder ◴[] No.41898171[source]
I imagine they're referring to the fact that the leadership showed extremely bad judgement in deciding to pick a battle with the major publishing companies that everyone knew they would lose before it even began [0].

I don't think that justifies blaming the victim here, and from what I can see the attacker doesn't seem to be motivated by anything other than funsies, but I absolutely lost a lot of faith in their leadership when they pulled the NEL nonsense. The IA is too valuable for them to act like a young activist org—there's too much for us to lose at this point. They need to hold the ground they've won and leave the activism to other organizations.

[0] https://www.wired.com/story/internet-archive-loses-hachette-...

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jampekka ◴[] No.41899069[source]
> there's too much for us to lose at this point

Feeling entitled?

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lolinder ◴[] No.41899870[source]
"Us" means all of humankind for hopefully many generations to come. It's not about my personal entitlement, it's that the IA serves a vital role for humanity (one which they fought hard to make permissible).
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1. jampekka ◴[] No.41901936[source]
If it's so important to us, perhaps we should support it then?

The discussion around IA nowadays seems a lot like random users ranting at open source maintainers in Github issues.