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The IPv6 Transition

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AdamH12113 ◴[] No.41893503[source]
I’ve often wondered if going with 64-bit addresses with a dotted quad hex notation would have eased the roll-out. I remember a lot of resistance when IPv6 was first announced along the lines of “I can’t memorize/type in giant addresses and I don’t want to have to use DHCP and DNS everywhere.” It felt like IPv6 never recovered from a bad first impression.
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growse ◴[] No.41893535[source]
I'm not sure I've ever heard this view expressed by serious, competent network engineers. I have heard it a lot from the home hobbyist though, but I'm not sure how much that demographic matters in the grand scheme of things.
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1. zaphoyd ◴[] No.41898108[source]
I also find it really weird as the killer (only?) app for IPv6 is that home hobbyists can run servers with low overhead!

Additionally, like a sibling comment notes, a home hobbyist has full control over at least half, often more, of their addresses and can easily choose addresses for their network that are as short or shorter and easier to remember and organize vs a v4 network where you have no letters to work with much more strict subnet size rules, etc.

IPv6 is a dream for home hobbyists! The complaining from them about “unmemorable” addresses just makes no sense.

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2. growse ◴[] No.41898689[source]
> I also find it really weird as the killer (only?) app for IPv6 is that home hobbyists can run servers with low overhead!

Well, the non-trivial percentage of large orgs that have literally run out of RFC 1918 space would disagree.

But yes, you're right. There's a weird Stockholm syndrome thing some people have with NAT.

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3. blueflow ◴[] No.41899276[source]
Yes, companies run out of RFC 1918 addresses, but no, they will continue to use public ranges for their internal networks.
4. wpm ◴[] No.41899986[source]
>vs a v4 network where you have no letters to work with

It'd be hard to have so many devices that even in 10.0.0.0/8, you run into a need to have letters as part of the network addresses.

My home network is larger than most and I while I use multiple subnets for fun, I could it all of it into a single /24.

5. magicalhippo ◴[] No.41901568[source]
It's not weird. Many ISPs have dynamic prefixes, and even with "just" 56 bits that prefix is long and not very memorable.

Thus ULA is a must on the inside, and DynDNS is still required for anything internet facing.

6. James_K ◴[] No.41909860[source]
A more accurate way to describe this is that IPv4 prevents anyone who isn't a hobbyist or professional from running their own server.