US probes Tesla's Full Self-Driving software after fatal crash

As I come over the top of a crest, there was suddenly a lot of sun glare and the my Model Y violently swerved to the left, fortunately I had just overtaken a car on a two lane, dual carriageway and hadn't moved back to the left hand lane yet.

The driver I had just overtaken, although he wasn't very close anymore slowed right down to get away from me and I didn't blame him.

That manoeuvre in another car likely would have put it on two wheels.

They say FSD crashes less often than a human per mile driven, but I can only use FSD on roads like motorways, so I don't think it's a fair comparison.

I don't trust FSD, I still use it occasionally but never in less than ideal conditions. Typically when doing something like changing the music on a motorway.

It probably is safer than just me driving alone, when it's in good conditions on a straight road with light traffic with an alert driver.

The underlying problem is that the current FSD architecture doesn't seem to have good guard rails for these outlier situations you describe (sunlight blinding the camera from just the right angle probably?) and it is probably not possible to add such rules without limiting the system enormously.

Fundamentally driving consists of a set of fairly clear cut rules with a ridiculous amount of "it depends" cases.

what do you mean you can only use fsd on motorways? Just by phrasing I assume you’re referring to the old FSD which is just beefed up autopilot based on heuristics - europe is stuck on a gimped 5 year old autopilot stack due to overzealous regulation.

American FSD is a completely different beast, usable on every road and street, so your anecdote is actually not relevant to the thread

it actually does. he’s in europe, on a 5 year old autopilot, basically.

current fsd uses a multiexposure camera feed so its not really much susceptible to sun glare.

> Just by phrasing I assume you’re referring to the old FSD

I find it very confusing with the multiple versions of FSD, Auto-pilot, enhanced Auto-Pilot, supervised etc, but yeah I'm in Europe.

I got the car new from Tesla last year.

I understood there are vastly more features in the American locale but I assumed the 'keep lane' ability to be on-par and given the hardware is the same, sun-glare performance.