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rKarpinski ◴[] No.41889014[source]
'Pedestrian' in this context seems pretty misleading

"Two vehicles collided on the freeway, blocking the left lane. A Toyota 4Runner stopped, and two people got out to help with traffic control. A red Tesla Model Y then hit the 4Runner and one of the people who exited from it. "

edit: Parent article was changed... I was referring to the title of the NPR article.

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danans ◴[] No.41889087[source]
> Pedestrian' in this context seems pretty misleading

What's misleading? The full quote:

"A red Tesla Model Y then hit the 4Runner and one of the people who exited from it. A 71-year-old woman from Mesa, Arizona, was pronounced dead at the scene."

If you exit a vehicle, and are on foot, you are a pedestrian.

I wouldn't expect FSD's object recognition system to treat a human who has just exited a car differently than a human walking across a crosswalk. A human on foot is a human on foot.

However, from the sound of it, the object recognition system didn't even see the 4Runner, much less a person, so perhaps there's a more fundamental problem with it?

Perhaps this is something that lidar or radar, if the car had them, would have helped the OR system to see.

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jfoster ◴[] No.41889174[source]
The description has me wondering if this was definitely a case where FSD was being used. There have been other cases in the past where drivers had an accident and claimed they were using autopilot when they actually were not.

I don't know for sure, but I would think that the car could detect a collision. I also don't know for sure, but I would think that FSD would stop once a collision has been detected.

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bastawhiz ◴[] No.41889223[source]
Did the article say the Tesla didn't stop after the collision?
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1. jfoster ◴[] No.41889343[source]
If it hit the vehicle and then hit one of the people who had exited the vehicle with enough force for it to result in a fatality, it sounds like it might not have applied any braking.

Of course, that depends on the speed it was traveling at to begin with.