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cynicalpeace ◴[] No.41882321[source]
I'm betting against OpenAI. Sam Altman has proven himself and his company untrustworthy. In long running games, untrustworthy players lose out.

If you disagree, I would argue you have a very sad view of the world, where truth and cooperation are inferior to lies and manipulation.

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greenthrow ◴[] No.41882351[source]
Elon Musk alone disproves your theory. I wish I agreed with you, I'm sure I'd be happier. But there's just too many successful sociopaths. Hell there was a popular book about it.
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015a ◴[] No.41882414[source]
You should really read the OP's theory as: clearly untrustworthy people lose out. Trustworthy people, and unclearly untrustworthy people, win.

OAI's problem isn't that Sam is untrustworthy; he's just too obviously untrustworthy.

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cynicalpeace ◴[] No.41882451[source]
Yes correct. And hopefully untrustworthy people become clearly untrustworthy people eventually.

Elon is not "untrustworthy" because of some ambitious deadlines or some stupid statements. He's plucking rockets out of the air and doing it super cheap whereas all competitors are lining their pockets with taxpayer money.

You add in everything else (free speech, speaking his mind at great personal risk, tesla), he reads as basically trustworthy to me.

When he says he's going to do something and he explains why, I basically believe him, knowing deadlines are ambitious.

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1. greenthrow ◴[] No.41884076[source]
That's an interesting way to characterize Elon's history. "Ambitious deadlines" implies you are believe he will one day deliver on the many, many claims he's made that have never happened.

SpaceX and Tesla have both accomplished great things. There's a lot of talented people that work there. Elon doesn'r deserve all the credit for all their hard work.