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The feds are coming for John Deere over the right to repair

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568 points rntn | 1 comments | 18 Oct 24 16:32 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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CatWChainsaw ◴[18 Oct 24 18:30 UTC] No.41882137[source]▶
The Feds are coming, and I hope they keep going and going until there isn't a single product or service left that dares dictate what you can do after the transaction is complete.
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pwillia7 ◴[18 Oct 24 18:42 UTC] No.41882261[source]▶
Say hello to your new Subscription products
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Gibbon1 ◴[18 Oct 24 18:57 UTC] No.41882376[source]▶
I've been rolling the idea around that perhaps if a product is encumbered by a subscription then it's not a first sale and the product counts as inventory. And gets taxed as such.
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twh270 ◴[18 Oct 24 19:12 UTC] No.41882512[source]▶
I don't know the first thing about such things, but I'll bet if companies were pushed on this they'd suddenly start asserting that it's a lease, which I think is typically taxed similarly to a sale.

I hate the "everything's a subscription" business model that's taking over everything. We'll achieve peak serfdom when the air we breathe, water we drink, and food we eat is bought on a subscription model.

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WarOnPrivacy ◴[18 Oct 24 20:32 UTC] No.41883206[source]▶
> I'll bet if companies were pushed on this they'd suddenly start asserting that it's a lease, which I think is typically taxed similarly to a sale.

A lease allows for the buyer to own the product, free and clear of the seller.

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1. lotsofpulp ◴[18 Oct 24 21:09 UTC] No.41883512{3}[source]▶
Not in real estate. There is technically no difference between leasing and renting, other than the things that are colloquially associated with. A lease agreement (or rental agreement) may or may not have a clause offering the borrower an opportunity to take ownership.

Rent might also refer to the price portion of a leasing agreement (or rental agreement). So in shorthand usage, “the lease” might encompass all terms of borrowing something, including the price, but “the rent” might just refer to the price.