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Reflections on Palantir

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479 points freditup | 5 comments | 16 Oct 24 02:18 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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ak_111 ◴[16 Oct 24 22:35 UTC] No.41864546[source]▶
Note that Palantir's moral stature isn't as grey or debatable as made in the article, it is basically clearly complicit in the genocide in Gaza.

In other words, if you read the article I would add one more bucket to the three categories the author provided to classify palantir's work - genocide assistance.

from https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/us-jd-vance-peter-thiel-f...

""" Not only did it provide information to the US military during the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, but over the past 10 months in particular, Palantir has provided AI-powered military and surveillance technology support to the Israelis in its war on Gaza.

It has, in the words of Palantir's co-founder Alex Karp, been involved in "crucial operations in Israel".

Palantir says it offers defence technologies that are “mission-tested capabilities, forged in the field” to deliver “a tactical edge - by land, air, sea and space”.

These capabilities include supplying Israel’s military and intelligence agencies with the data to fire missiles at specific targets in Gaza - be it inside homes or in moving vehicles. """

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samatman[dead post] ◴[16 Oct 24 23:40 UTC] No.41864998[source]▶
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1. bdjsiqoocwk ◴[16 Oct 24 23:54 UTC] No.41865098[source]▶
> Defeating Hamas is a moral imperative.

In that case what do you call the Netanyahu governament strategy of propping up Hamas?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...

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2. slibhb ◴[17 Oct 24 00:21 UTC] No.41865228[source]▶
A mistake? The Israelis didn't understand the extent to which Hamas views itself as engaged in a holy war. They (and many others, including me) thought that Hamas would prioritize building Gaza and providing services to its people over murder/kidnapping raids.
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4. bdjsiqoocwk ◴[17 Oct 24 06:40 UTC] No.41867005[source]▶
That's one theory. Another one is read the article.

The reason it matters is that under the second one Israel has no moral legitimacy, so saying things like moral imperative show how fucked up your morals are.

5. yoz ◴[17 Oct 24 12:09 UTC] No.41868878[source]▶
You're underestimating how valuable Hamas has been to the Israeli right. Smotrich called them an asset in 2015 for a reason, and Netanyahu said similar in 2012.

With Hamas in charge, Israel could avoid making new peace agreements or concessions by saying that there was "no partner for peace". The more violent Hamas got, the more cover Israel had for expanding settlements. And now Likud is already talking about what they'll do with all the Gaza land they're taking.