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Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 30 years to prove

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201 points andsoitis | 1 comments | 15 Oct 24 13:39 UTC | HN request time: 0.904s | source
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aucisson_masque ◴[15 Oct 24 22:04 UTC] No.41853580[source]▶
> Can we overcome ageing?

75% American are overweight..

Just let it sink a second, they speak about how many baby born after 2000 will reach 100 years old, how we are reaching the absolute limit of human survival.

75% overweight... Everyone know fat people don't live long. I bet all the studies done in the 90's that predicted we would easily be able to reach 100 years old didn't take that into account.

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scarby2 ◴[15 Oct 24 22:18 UTC] No.41853689[source]▶
I'm thinking that ozempic and zepbound will have something to say about this. When ozempic becomes available as a generic (2032) it's going to be available for $10 a dose and a huge amount of people will be taking it.
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yodsanklai ◴[16 Oct 24 11:42 UTC] No.41857957[source]▶
I'm not quite sure this will address the root issues. Obesity is linked with very unhealthy diet. Ozempic isn't going to address that.
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aetherson ◴[16 Oct 24 11:53 UTC] No.41858031[source]▶
It does at least potentially address that.

Ozempic's mechanism of action is not "ramp up your metabolism" or "make you absorb fewer calories from food." It's "make the desire to eat less intense, making it easier to remain on a diet plan." That diet plan could be, "eat exactly the same things but less of them," but it will often be, "cut out unhealthy snacks" or whatever.

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gruez ◴[16 Oct 24 12:55 UTC] No.41858545[source]▶
>It's "make the desire to eat less intense, making it easier to remain on a diet plan." That diet plan could be, "eat exactly the same things but less of them," but it will often be, "cut out unhealthy snacks" or whatever.

If people can't be convinced to eat carrots over chips, what makes you think they're going to suddenly eat carrots over chips after eating medication that makes them want to eat less?

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hoseja ◴[16 Oct 24 13:30 UTC] No.41858845[source]▶
Because that's literally what Ozempic does.
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gruez ◴[16 Oct 24 13:41 UTC] No.41858939[source]▶
I'm not sure how making someone less hungry magically makes them want to eat carrots over chips. Is the reason why they're eating chips because they're so hungry and so pressed for time that they're reaching for the highest calorie food? Or do they eat whatever's the most delicious? If it's the latter, I doubt being less hungry is going to make them choose healthier options over more delicious ones.
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1. kaibee ◴[16 Oct 24 17:23 UTC] No.41861506[source]▶
Oh I can answer this one. I've never liked chips but was still ~230lb before Ozempic. I tried various diets, but the willpower to maintain one was pretty overwhelming if anything else was going on in my life. I tried eating carrots to get full. And let me tell you, it feels very strange to eat half a pound of carrots, feel your stomach be full, almost painfully full, and still be just as hungry. Same with salads. I would still feel hungry, even though the stomach is full. Even though I liked the taste of the carrots or the salad. It felt like I hadn't actually eaten, and that I was still hungry for an actual meal. With Ozempic? I can just eat a salad, feel good about it, and feel satiated for hours. It just works?