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Life expectancy rise in rich countries slows down: took 30 years to prove

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201 points andsoitis | 1 comments | 15 Oct 24 13:39 UTC | HN request time: 0.205s | source
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aucisson_masque ◴[15 Oct 24 22:04 UTC] No.41853580[source]▶
> Can we overcome ageing?

75% American are overweight..

Just let it sink a second, they speak about how many baby born after 2000 will reach 100 years old, how we are reaching the absolute limit of human survival.

75% overweight... Everyone know fat people don't live long. I bet all the studies done in the 90's that predicted we would easily be able to reach 100 years old didn't take that into account.

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scarby2 ◴[15 Oct 24 22:18 UTC] No.41853689[source]▶
I'm thinking that ozempic and zepbound will have something to say about this. When ozempic becomes available as a generic (2032) it's going to be available for $10 a dose and a huge amount of people will be taking it.
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yodsanklai ◴[16 Oct 24 11:42 UTC] No.41857957[source]▶
I'm not quite sure this will address the root issues. Obesity is linked with very unhealthy diet. Ozempic isn't going to address that.
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aetherson ◴[16 Oct 24 11:53 UTC] No.41858031[source]▶
It does at least potentially address that.

Ozempic's mechanism of action is not "ramp up your metabolism" or "make you absorb fewer calories from food." It's "make the desire to eat less intense, making it easier to remain on a diet plan." That diet plan could be, "eat exactly the same things but less of them," but it will often be, "cut out unhealthy snacks" or whatever.

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gruez ◴[16 Oct 24 12:55 UTC] No.41858545[source]▶
>It's "make the desire to eat less intense, making it easier to remain on a diet plan." That diet plan could be, "eat exactly the same things but less of them," but it will often be, "cut out unhealthy snacks" or whatever.

If people can't be convinced to eat carrots over chips, what makes you think they're going to suddenly eat carrots over chips after eating medication that makes them want to eat less?

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hoseja ◴[16 Oct 24 13:30 UTC] No.41858845[source]▶
Because that's literally what Ozempic does.
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gruez ◴[16 Oct 24 13:41 UTC] No.41858939[source]▶
I'm not sure how making someone less hungry magically makes them want to eat carrots over chips. Is the reason why they're eating chips because they're so hungry and so pressed for time that they're reaching for the highest calorie food? Or do they eat whatever's the most delicious? If it's the latter, I doubt being less hungry is going to make them choose healthier options over more delicious ones.
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1. siver_john ◴[16 Oct 24 14:01 UTC] No.41859138[source]▶
From my friends who are on ozempic, yes it has literally done just that. Along with the fact because they are driven to eat less they, in general are less snacky (and thus eat less chips) and tend to avoid greasy/fried foods because combined with the medicine it leaves them feeling worse afterwards than eating a similar "healthier meal".

Yes N=2, small sample sizes, but I could also see how being less snacky makes one less likely to eat chips. (Why I almost pathologically don't keep easy to eat food in my pantry, granted this can also backfire too).