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MacOS sometimes leaks traffic after system updates

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400 points dulvui | 2 comments | 16 Oct 24 08:37 UTC | HN request time: 0.447s | source
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mgoetzke ◴[16 Oct 24 09:44 UTC] No.41857244[source]▶
it also leaks the audio of tabs before logging in.

Even though I had disabled all 'restore' applications features, macos sometimes decides to 'start' browsers BEFORE logging in after a restart AND those start auto-playing audio from whatever was paused before the reboot (or many days before).

Since then I went rather deep disabling that feature, but I never trusted it.

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Affric ◴[16 Oct 24 09:46 UTC] No.41857258[source]▶
I can’t think of anything I want less from a laptop than it playing sound when I open it… and yet apple bring it to me as though it’s a feature.
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theshrike79 ◴[16 Oct 24 09:57 UTC] No.41857320[source]▶
There are exactly zero situations where I would want my laptop be anything except fully muted when I open it.
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bayindirh ◴[16 Oct 24 10:05 UTC] No.41857359[source]▶
Your applications should catch the signal and pause. Safari, Apple Music and Spotify handle this well. Firefox needs a bugfix.
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Faaak ◴[16 Oct 24 12:44 UTC] No.41858429[source]▶
Yet they still make a sound when powered on or resuming sleep (and curiously, when plugged into my usb-c monitor, keeps going to sleep and turning back on (with a nice sound) forever. No other laptop win or Linux does that)
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1. bayindirh ◴[16 Oct 24 12:50 UTC] No.41858488[source]▶
I actually tested my laptop before writing that comment. My laptop(s) make no sound even if I close the lid with playing audio (sans Firefox, as I said).

I didn't test sleep/wake consciously while I docked my laptops, but I don't remember they start making sounds when they should be silent. Maybe you're seeing PowerNap cycles, but mine is not doing any noise in PowerNap, either.

Need to test with leaving Firefox playing something and see what it does.

...all in all, interesting sentiments. I'm using these things for ~15 years at this point, and while they did funny things in the past, this was not one of them.

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2. Faaak ◴[16 Oct 24 14:57 UTC] No.41859821[source]▶
you're lucky :-)