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throwaway48476 ◴[] No.41850185[source]
It is interesting that one of their examples is a "community repair fair", they want to market a sheen of social responsibility without actually taking part themselves.
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giancarlostoro ◴[] No.41850430[source]
Lowkey wish their laptops would be as they used to be. Being able to swap RAM or hard drives is so basic but so useful.
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1. talldayo ◴[] No.41852852[source]
Drives in particular. Let them solder the memory if they absolutely have to, but exposing even an empty NVMe slot should be standard for laptops. Unfortunately, Apple makes a pretty penny off the storage surcharge so I wouldn't really anticipate that anytime soon.
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2. loopdoend ◴[] No.41853139[source]
I will accept the trade off for the performance boost tbh.
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3. franciscop ◴[] No.41853202[source]
They no longer even have a "memory" chip anymore, it's all part of the same SOC AFAIK, so they cannot "solder" it.
4. AlexandrB ◴[] No.41853315[source]
Even when Apple laptops had removable solid state storage, it used a non-standard connector[1]. Very consumer and repair hostile. While OWC still made thirds party drives for these[2], few (no?) other companies did.

[1] https://beetstech.com/blog/apple-proprietary-ssd-ultimate-gu...

[2] https://www.owc.com/solutions/aura-n2

5. lucb1e ◴[] No.41853581[source]
What performance boost? As in, same software running for comparison on the hardware of interest, one soldered and the other not. I never heard that soldering your SSD on makes it faster...
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6. jsheard ◴[] No.41853731{3}[source]
It doesn't, Apples SSD performance is fine but unremarkable. Their current machines will do around ~6GB/sec read and ~5GB/sec write, which isn't even at the limit of socketed PCIe4 NVMe drives, nevermind the bleeding edge PCIe5 drives which can do up to ~14GB/sec read and ~12GB/sec write (albeit with excessive heat and power consumption for a laptop).

Soldering the RAM has legitimate performance benefits, but soldering the SSD is just to save space and upsell overpriced upgrades.

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7. throwaway48476 ◴[] No.41856078{4}[source]
It's crazy that some people think it's apple so it must be special and better not realizing NVMe is a industry standard.
8. loopdoend ◴[] No.41856273{3}[source]
Sorry I was referring to the boost you get from having ram integrated into the chip vis-à-vis apple’s M-line of processors.

Having replaceable ram is not really a marketable feature these days.