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World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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424 points notamy | 14 comments | 15 Oct 24 03:12 UTC | HN request time: 0.471s | source | bottom
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umanwizard ◴[15 Oct 24 03:33 UTC] No.41844648[source]▶
Is this game well-known enough in Britain and Ireland that readers will know what on earth is being alleged just from reading this article? Or are you expected to have to google it?

Apparently it’s a game where you take turns swinging a chestnut on a string and trying to hit the opponent’s chestnut and break it. Yes, I can see how a steel fake chestnut would be an advantage here, though I’m amazed it wouldn’t be instantly obvious to even a casual observer that the look and sound were wrong. So maybe I’m still missing something.

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lock_enthusiast ◴[15 Oct 24 03:38 UTC] No.41844679[source]▶
I feel there is enough in the article to build an image of the game in your head: I'm imagining a game game where two people trying to destroy the other person's chestnut by whirring and hitting the chestnuts on the end of strings. Now I'm going to go check my mental image against wikipedia.
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Nursie ◴[15 Oct 24 04:36 UTC] No.41844989[source]▶
That's more or less it.

You make a hole through your 'conker' (horse chestnut, not the edible type) and thread a string or a bootlace through it.

Then you take turns.

One holds their string still and lets the conker hang down, the other gets a swing at it with their conker. Whoever's conker lasts the longest is the winner.

There were all sorts of rumours about baking them, or soaking in vinegar or what have you to harden them up, but effectively it's the sort of game that a bunch of kids can play under a horse chestnut tree with relatively few props.

Using a steel 'ringer' in that circumstance would be the worst sort of unsportsmanlike behaviour.

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1. riffraff ◴[15 Oct 24 05:45 UTC] No.41845293[source]▶
Ho do you drill the hole? I'm having trouble imagining kids with needles in their pockets, do you do it with a pencil or toothpick?

We've got a ton of horse chestnuts in my neighborhood but I've never heard of this game and I'm eager to introduce it to my kids.

Also, doesn't the conker spiral around your hand hitting it and hurting you?

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2. LandR ◴[15 Oct 24 06:10 UTC] No.41845430[source]▶
> your hand hitting it and hurting you?

WHen you were a kid, accidentally hitting yourself or the other person was just part of it!

3. looperhacks ◴[15 Oct 24 06:27 UTC] No.41845539[source]▶
I'm not from Britain, but we used to craft with chestnuts. We always used a small hand drill (Wikipedia tells me it's called a gimlet). I assume it's the same in Britain
4. tankenmate ◴[15 Oct 24 06:34 UTC] No.41845594[source]▶
Horse chestnut shells are very hard, normally you would drill the hole.
5. Nursie ◴[15 Oct 24 06:45 UTC] No.41845654[source]▶
A gimlet? Hammer and a thick-ish nail? Honestly I can't remember how we used to do it. Might even have used a hand drill at some point. They're fairly soft when you've made a hole in the shell, so you might get away with a screwdriver?

When at school we probably made do with a compass (the drawing kind), as we all had them. I'm sure that resulted in a pretty high rate of conkers being destroyed before they could be strung, and a lot of ruined compasses.

> Also, doesn't the conker spiral around your hand hitting it and hurting you?

Generally not, though the game isn't without its minor hazards :)

There's a (very sweet) video here that seems to do a good job of showing the process and the game - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLGuZZraIqg

Through the exact rules are up to the players and I personally consider the "stamps" rule they mention to be foul play :)

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6. dageshi ◴[15 Oct 24 07:19 UTC] No.41845809[source]▶
We randomly had something like this in our kitchen draw...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SpitJack-Trussing-Butchers-Roasting...

Attach string, push through, detach string and remove.

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7. riffraff ◴[15 Oct 24 07:29 UTC] No.41845855[source]▶
sweet!
8. riffraff ◴[15 Oct 24 07:34 UTC] No.41845874[source]▶
compass makes a ton of sense, and that is indeed a sweet video, thanks for sharing!
9. bluehatbrit ◴[15 Oct 24 07:42 UTC] No.41845920[source]▶
> Also, doesn't the conker spiral around your hand hitting it and hurting you?

Not usually in my experience, the string isn't that short and you're holding it at one end. Injury is still possible though, but that's part of the fun!

10. oniony ◴[15 Oct 24 08:00 UTC] No.41846057[source]▶
We used to have a BBQ skewer that we used for various purposes, including adding holes to belts. We'd heat it up on the gas hob and then burn a hole through the conker. I actually still have the same one I've inherited in my kitchen drawer. If you have an awl, you could use that instead, but I'd recommend heating it to get a cleaner hole.

You need to use a long enough string. Old cotton shoe laces are actually perfect as the aglets make threading that much easier.

The force of one conker against another is enough to sometimes make it spin round, but not enough to do any real damage. You just need a long enough string that your fingers are not in the firing range. Obviously there is a vanishingly small risk of a piece of conker ending up in the eye but I never witnessed that or any other injury happening. The biggest problem was usually upset kids when their prized conker got destroyed.

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11. red_admiral ◴[15 Oct 24 08:57 UTC] No.41846482[source]▶
> Also, doesn't the conker spiral around your hand hitting it and hurting you?

It does until you learn, usually quite quickly, to do it properly.

Hurting your opponent's hand is a different matter :)

12. zelos ◴[15 Oct 24 09:23 UTC] No.41846661[source]▶
We'd heat it up on the gas hob and then burn a hole through the conker.

That's brilliant. Why did this never occur to me? That's going on the list of things to tell my younger self when time travel becomes possible.

13. conkers ◴[15 Oct 24 09:44 UTC] No.41846792[source]▶
We used a corkscrew then threaded a shoelace through it.
14. tjalfi ◴[15 Oct 24 12:16 UTC] No.41847766[source]▶
The memoir Where Did You Go? Out. What Did You Do? Nothing describes using a heated icepick.

You take a chestnut, and you hook the ice pick. You wait until nobody is in the kitchen, and then one kid presses down on the pilot-light button so that a long delicate blue finger of flame comes out, and the other kid puts the ice pick in the flame until it is red-hot. When it is, he bores a hole in the chestnut. You do as many as you can until somebody comes and asks you what you are doing, and then, according to your standing in the family, that day, you either plead, argue, or say, “Oh, jeez,” and slink away.