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    quantified ◴[] No.41842362[source]
    Surprising absolutely no one, I hope. Credibility seems difficult to generate for Tesla events. Maybe the secret sauce for Robotaxis is a human driver somewhere watching the cameras. Like driving Uber but from the comfort of home, and it's easy to hit the fridge or bathroom between rides.
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    1. wokwokwok ◴[] No.41843760[source]
    I mean, shoot me down here, but is it that bad of an idea?

    If you're going to have an assistant or a taxi driver, and you start off at the base position of "AI is totally unreliable", then having a fully remote gig-worker remotely piloting your robot...

    I mean, it doesn't seem like a massive stretch from what Uber does.

    ...and heck, having a 'remote robot body' is pretty cool tech.

    I guess. As long as you don't use it to pretend its just AI for the meaningless purposes of generating hype about your AI that really isn't actually any good.

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    2. FactKnower69 ◴[] No.41843795[source]
    >but is it that bad of an idea?

    yes, operating any kind of heavy machinery over a shaky wireless WAN with hundreds of milliseconds of latency and multiple percentage packet loss is, in fact, a bad idea

    3. darth_avocado ◴[] No.41843841[source]
    > Is it that bad of an idea?

    Driving at 60mph with shaky internet connection? Absolutely.

    Piloting a robot to fold laundry? Maybe not.

    Allowing random people to pilot robots in your house with children around? Absolutely horrific.

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    4. xyzzy123 ◴[] No.41843923[source]
    It seems like there's considerable demand for human labour "below the API" that you don't have to talk to. It's kind of sad but people seem to get comfortable with it very quickly.
    5. kortilla ◴[] No.41843989[source]
    > Allowing random people to pilot robots in your house with children around? Absolutely horrific.

    Your risk analysis on this is completely wrong. If there is some vetting here this is fine. No different than a babysitter or a handyman off the Internet

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    6. foobiekr ◴[] No.41844033[source]
    The problem is it was presented in the most manipulative and deceptive way possible.
    7. defrost ◴[] No.41844051{3}[source]
    You're saying then that tools exist to scan and ping all babysiters and handymen across the globe, fingerprint them for version, lookup zero-days, apply them to matching staff, exploit that to monitor children remotely, and take control over home assistants function to shepard children out the door to a "party van" ?

    That's the ecosystem that surrounds most actual IoT devices - I can't see home robots being any different.

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    8. nneonneo ◴[] No.41844133{4}[source]
    The Pied Piper, in robot form.
    9. jazzyjackson ◴[] No.41844207{3}[source]
    Who gets a babysitter off the Internet?
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    10. oblio ◴[] No.41844344{4}[source]
    Apparently at least everyone who keeps this website going, at least: https://www.babysits.org/
    11. nnurmanov ◴[] No.41844578[source]
    There are FPV drones, although I am not sure about their precision
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    13. darth_avocado ◴[] No.41844826{3}[source]
    My “vetted” Doordash/Ubereats drivers sometimes end up eating part of my meals.