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1. pavel_lishin ◴[] No.41842453[source]
I'm going to also throw anecdotes into the bucket: three dentists completely missed a cavity on one of my rear molars (wisdom teeth) until I mentioned pain, and then they poked around physically and said, "oh yeah, that's a big one."
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2. vardump ◴[] No.41842483[source]
What kind of dental x-rays they took? Panoramic (shows the whole row of teeth in one image), CBCT (volumetric 3D) or intraoral (a digital sensor or film was put inside your mouth)?
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3. galleywest200 ◴[] No.41842630[source]
Not OP, but I have only ever had the type of dental x-ray where they stick the L-shaped plastic into your mouth and make your bite down while they take photos. I had no idea there were others.
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4. bsimpson ◴[] No.41842717[source]
Your anecdote corroborates one of the key points in the article:

> For instance, a 2021 systemic review of 77 studies that included data on a total of 15,518 tooth sites or surfaces found that using X-rays to detect early tooth decay led to a high degree of false-negative results. In other words, it led to missed cases.

The article isn't just saying you're getting unnecessary radiation. It's also saying that relying on x-rays lets dentists be lazy about finding problems while also billing you for unnecessary work.

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5. sidewndr46 ◴[] No.41842726{3}[source]
The original machine I used looked like a TSA body scanner but for your head. Somehow it hit plates that were developed into an image the dentist could present to me.
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6. dopylitty ◴[] No.41842810[source]
I had the same but with a cracked crown. The dentist did the bite wing x-rays, did whatever examination they do, and then at the end said it all looked good. They even did some fancy 3d scan trying to sell me on a mouth guard or those transparent braces.

Then I mentioned I had pain around the crown whenever I ate something sweet or sour. The dentist took another look and said "oh yeah the crown is cracked"

So now I know I either have a cracked crown or I don't. Great service.

7. Supermancho ◴[] No.41843295{4}[source]
I have had both types, within the same office, over time.
8. vardump ◴[] No.41843857{3}[source]
That's a bitewing, intraoral.
9. Ferret7446 ◴[] No.41844101[source]
Does it catch cases though? If so, it doesn't mean it isn't worth it just because it misses cases.

Also, this may be a good application for AI. I would assume this is an issue with dentists being able to read X-rays carefully and not that the X-rays are unable to capture the signs.

10. pavel_lishin ◴[] No.41847904[source]
Panoramic and intraoral.
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11. vardump ◴[] No.41849499{3}[source]
Weird. Panoramic image should have shown the decay. I wonder if there were some image quality issues at the edges.