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VoxPelli ◴[] No.41839491[source]
Is there any message from the Flipper Zero people that this is actually their device?

It’s not mentioned on https://www.flipperdevices.com/, neither on https://flipperzero.one/ or their Instagram?

They have been plagued with peopling scamming people in their name before

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zhovner ◴[] No.41839748[source]
Hi, Pavel Zhovner here, Flipper Devices CEO. Yes it's our product, but it's not ready for announcement yet, so we keep it secret.

Right now, we are working on implementing Matter smart home protocol and will slightly change the product concept.

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1. parhamn ◴[] No.41841032[source]
Put a CO2 + temp/humidity sensor in there and it's a no-brainer. The sensors could be nice to hack on too.
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2. wingworks ◴[] No.41841099[source]
Also add PM (Particulate Matter) and VOC.
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4. mightysashiman ◴[] No.41841904[source]
hell yes!
5. mxfh ◴[] No.41842182[source]
with matter support that could just well integrate with the rest of home automation. There is a lack of devices with big nice dials for that.

+1 CO2/PM2.5

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6. dylan604 ◴[] No.41842428[source]
so now we're talking a $500 device? they're already asking ~$200 for a feature stop watch
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7. jll29 ◴[] No.41842567[source]
It's a beautiful site and product.

However, the original inventor of the Pomodoro technique explicitly advocates a "low tech" approach - a mechanical kitchen timer, because he argued that the tactile and auditory elements (i.e., the turning moves and ticking sounds) get associated with the elements of the techniques in the human brain.

It would be interesting to evaluate both variants of the approach in a scientific experiment.

https://www.amazon.com/-/en/38-1005/dp/B00335P518 - about €7 or $13, depending on your geography

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8. vineyardmike ◴[] No.41842994[source]
This product (1) is not just for Pomodoro and (2) has nice tactile hardware.

I think hardware that can "passively" be more useful with sensors and similar are easy wins. No reason it has to disrupt a timer, it just hides sensors you'd want within a device that would already be sitting out in your home/office.

9. wongarsu ◴[] No.41843041[source]
And double the price?

Temp/humidity is simple enough, but reasonably priced CO2 sensors with any accuracy are an issue

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10. Aurornis ◴[] No.41843542[source]
Ahh, the inevitable slippery slope of feature requests. Making hardware for geeks is a tough business because they’ll always say they’d buy it if it had just one or two more features, but by the time you add all of the feature requests they complain that it’s too expensive.
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11. latexr ◴[] No.41843747[source]
> but by the time you add all of the feature requests they complain that it’s too expensive.

Or that it’s too complicated. Then another startup comes along to “simplify” the product and the cycle begins anew.

12. ssl-3 ◴[] No.41844435[source]
Why stop at a $500 device?

I think it should also have NVMe and SFF-8644 for external disk shelves. At least 6x 10GbE, with 4 on SFPs and 2 on copper. A GPU with excellent hardware transcoding, and slotted VRAM for that local LLM fun. Plus an 8k projector for movie nights at the office.

And a pony; every single one of these fucking kitchen timers must also come with a pony.

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13. dylan604 ◴[] No.41844485{3}[source]
I think you're missing the obvious play to subsidize the price by making that LLM enabled with a mic and then selling all of that training data. The price could then come down to $19.99.
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14. ssl-3 ◴[] No.41844513{4}[source]
I forgot the phased 32-element microphone array! How silly of me.

It will listen in all directions at once, 24/7/365, and send the recordings home to mother.

If done right, that should keep the end-user price below $10.

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15. djbusby ◴[] No.41844564[source]
Maybe aranet4 device as add-on? It does BTLE.
16. dylan604 ◴[] No.41844649{5}[source]
The sub $10 unit will also include cameras for the additional training data
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17. ssl-3 ◴[] No.41844716{6}[source]
At some point, it starts to make sense to pay people to take these things.
18. zhovner ◴[] No.41848380[source]
CO2 sensor is too expensive. No one will buy this device for $500
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19. itomato ◴[] No.41848655[source]
If there are GPIOs let the market do it.
20. Spivak ◴[] No.41849868[source]
You can get a good CO2 sensor for less than $50 [1]. For large-batch orders the whole device can be less than $50 [2]. Where are you getting an almost $300 addition to the base price?

[1] https://sensirion.com/products/catalog/SCD30

[2] https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/vindstyrka-air-quality-sensor-s...

21. eastbound ◴[] No.41850830[source]
I’ve found a CO2 measure for 16€ at my supermarket. Of course I’ll never know whether it’s accurate ;)