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vachina ◴[] No.41834294[source]
Kagi is great because SEO cargo cult haven’t caught up yet. Once Kagi gains traction I guarantee result quality will nosedive.
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1. EZ-E ◴[] No.41834350[source]
> Kagi is great because SEO cargo cult haven’t caught up yet

This seems like a hard problem to solve, the incentive to be top ranked is just so high. What could be the solution? Can AI even help? Do we need to go back to manual curation after all? I remember in the 90s there were manually curated lists of websites, something like a website directory. At this point I'd rather get recommended a list of websites from a reddit user than relying on Google's ranking.

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2. joe_the_user ◴[] No.41834400[source]
I don't think SEO actually beat Google. Rather, Google simply capitulated or was captured. I distinctly remember a 2019 update where things really went bad.

Part of the situation is that a company that relies on ad revenue will get gradually feel the pull of the advertisers more and more.

I'd be more worried about someone nefarious buying Kagi if it got big. Someone else would be willing to pay a whole lot of money for those eyeballs.

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3. interroboink ◴[] No.41834443[source]
> a hard problem to solve

Indeed. And perhaps part of the issue is that there is not a single solution.

Even manual curation is ultimately based on trust. If someone's trusted list of recommendations gets popular enough, what's to stop them from "selling out," breaking that trust, to make money?

Also, the good curated stuff is typically correspondingly small and focused. But lots of people want broad results in their searches, and it's hard to imagine a person or handful of people being able to cater to all of those varying needs equally well.

Sometimes a person wants excellent narrow results (eg: academic looking for papers), other times they want broad shallow stuff, and at various other points want various other things in between.

There's a whole field of expertise, sometimes called "Library and Information Science" about organizing and making information findable, since long before computers existed. Even for them it is not a solved problem.

But the cat-and-mouse arms race that the online version has turned into makes libraries and asking a librarian for recommendations feel a lot more appealing (:

4. hulitu ◴[] No.41834609[source]
> the incentive to be top ranked is just so high. What could be the solution?

To not be top ranked ? /s

5. dannyw ◴[] No.41836302[source]
SEO spam is correlated with ads. Google dominates web advertising. Google’s interests are aligned with SEO spammers, as long as it’s not so terrible you switch to another search engine or stop searching.