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DiyPresso: DIY Espresso Machine

(www.diypresso.com)
325 points ragebol | 5 comments | 12 Sep 24 19:00 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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stiray ◴[13 Sep 24 10:57 UTC] No.41529978[source]▶
Would love to play with it but for this price they can keep it.

Dont understand me wrong, love the idea, but selling it for this price is just crazy.

Consumers should be more aware that if they can afford something, this doesnt mean it is worth buying it.

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klausa ◴[13 Sep 24 11:07 UTC] No.41530023[source]▶
I mean, 1250 euros is a lot of money, but that is very much on the lower end of prices for mid-range espresso machines.

If you don't like espresso and don't find it valuable, that's fine!

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stiray ◴[13 Sep 24 11:23 UTC] No.41530135[source]▶
Wrong narative. I love espresso. But comparing it with 250 euro espresso machine, I highly doubt that it will make 500% better coffee, for wast majority of the owners, cleaning one < 500 euros machine regularly would make more difference, maybe drying portafilter before use, learning how to equally distribute coffee in portafilter, adding a round cut tea/coffee filter at bottom of it, grind coffee correctly. Price / performance is just not there.

And I am not saying that any other mentioned "mid range" espresso machine is worth that money.

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oslem ◴[13 Sep 24 11:43 UTC] No.41530250[source]▶
You could make the same argument about a 250 euro espresso machine and a 30 euro moka pot. If the materials are better and the buyer likes it, it’s worth it to them at least. I think most people who own an espresso machine understand it’s a luxury.
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bongobingo1 ◴[13 Sep 24 11:51 UTC] No.41530305[source]▶
Moka and espresso machines produce different coffee though. They operate on the same principle but the pressures are much different.
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timvdalen ◴[13 Sep 24 11:59 UTC] No.41530363[source]▶
So are coffee from a 250 EUR "espresso" machine and a higher-end one
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1. siffin ◴[13 Sep 24 12:42 UTC] No.41530691[source]▶
No, coffee from a 250 EUR espresso machine and a higher end machine are still espresso. Stovetop doesn't make espresso coffee.

They are fundamentally different processes which product a completely different output.

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2. timvdalen ◴[13 Sep 24 14:25 UTC] No.41531551[source]▶
I don't disagree that a moka pot and espresso are completely different processes, I'm saying that a 250 EUR espresso machine is not going to be capable of making actual espresso (barring stuff like Flair that takes away components to make it work).
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3. stiray ◴[13 Sep 24 15:23 UTC] No.41532071[source]▶
But the facts are showing something else: https://www.delonghi.com/en-gb/products/coffee/manual-espres...

Just head to technical data and feel free to explain which parameter is wrong. Take the cheapest one, 213 euros. Is is 15 (12) bar of pressure? Some other type of heater, as 1300 Watts of input power is not enough?

Seriously, I don't understand what the limiting factor is? Not expensive enough?

I even tried to find explanation by Hoffman and:

- cheaper

- plastic, not a lot of metal

- light

- small drip tray

- you need to "grip" it, whatever that means

- if you are clumsy you press buttons

- what you would expect for the money

But nothing about the taste of espresso... ;)

Somehow it looks not luxurious enough, right?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L7WniyTqV9I

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4. Thimothy ◴[13 Sep 24 17:20 UTC] No.41533192{3}[source]▶
Lack of temperature control is a minus, as that means that there will be some blends that won't taste good, these days most fancy machines have a pid (and if yours doesn't you should install it, or you are missing out).

Kind of related, lack of boiler at 1.5 atm means non-great milk foaming capabilities.

Also, you buy a good 1500$ machine, your grandchildren will be able to inherit it if you take care of it. That delhongi won't last two days further than the minimum required by guarantee.

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5. stiray ◴[13 Sep 24 20:32 UTC] No.41534853{4}[source]▶
For 1000$ difference in price, I wont buy those blends, there are zillions of others to try. So simple. Anyway, I have checked and there is some temperature control + you can get more if you turn up the steam making and turn back to espresso making. A "hack".

About milk foaming, you are talking about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7tS99wwpSI as I dont see any issue with the foam. I do see skill.

Anyway, a life hack, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007334888419.html, 0.91$ replacement for 1000$ boiler. And it does wonderful foam, was using it 10 years back on 1xAA battery.

So, if I buy 5x Dedica (edit, just checked: 167 euro in my country, so it is actually 8x) for the price, and package them NEW for my grandchildren, this doesnt count?