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stiray ◴[] No.41529978[source]
Would love to play with it but for this price they can keep it.

Dont understand me wrong, love the idea, but selling it for this price is just crazy.

Consumers should be more aware that if they can afford something, this doesnt mean it is worth buying it.

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klausa ◴[] No.41530023[source]
I mean, 1250 euros is a lot of money, but that is very much on the lower end of prices for mid-range espresso machines.

If you don't like espresso and don't find it valuable, that's fine!

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stiray ◴[] No.41530135[source]
Wrong narative. I love espresso. But comparing it with 250 euro espresso machine, I highly doubt that it will make 500% better coffee, for wast majority of the owners, cleaning one < 500 euros machine regularly would make more difference, maybe drying portafilter before use, learning how to equally distribute coffee in portafilter, adding a round cut tea/coffee filter at bottom of it, grind coffee correctly. Price / performance is just not there.

And I am not saying that any other mentioned "mid range" espresso machine is worth that money.

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Wheaties466 ◴[] No.41530329[source]
i can tell you that more often than not it will make 500% better espresso.

I've owned 5 machines from varying price categories and the number of features you get with a machine around ~1200 gets you the most consistent experience.

can you make a good shot of espresso with a ~250 euro machine? absolutely. can you make 2-5 back to back great shots? probably not. Can you use any bean you want and get a good shot? probably not.

its all about what you value in your experience.

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stiray ◴[] No.41530370{3}[source]
Should I mention audiophiles? The first feeling when you turn on a new system, it will never come back, until you get an arguably better system...

And the rabbit hole is deep. How much did you pay for grinder?

I think this is worth (for espresso lover) far more than 1250 euro machine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTFsBqhpLes&list=PLxz0FjZMVO...

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1. klausa ◴[] No.41530414{4}[source]
I find it cute that you think people arguing that 1250E is not that much for a quality espresso machine don't know Hoffman's videos like the back of their hands :)