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stiray ◴[] No.41529978[source]
Would love to play with it but for this price they can keep it.

Dont understand me wrong, love the idea, but selling it for this price is just crazy.

Consumers should be more aware that if they can afford something, this doesnt mean it is worth buying it.

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klausa ◴[] No.41530023[source]
I mean, 1250 euros is a lot of money, but that is very much on the lower end of prices for mid-range espresso machines.

If you don't like espresso and don't find it valuable, that's fine!

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stiray ◴[] No.41530135[source]
Wrong narative. I love espresso. But comparing it with 250 euro espresso machine, I highly doubt that it will make 500% better coffee, for wast majority of the owners, cleaning one < 500 euros machine regularly would make more difference, maybe drying portafilter before use, learning how to equally distribute coffee in portafilter, adding a round cut tea/coffee filter at bottom of it, grind coffee correctly. Price / performance is just not there.

And I am not saying that any other mentioned "mid range" espresso machine is worth that money.

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oslem ◴[] No.41530250[source]
You could make the same argument about a 250 euro espresso machine and a 30 euro moka pot. If the materials are better and the buyer likes it, it’s worth it to them at least. I think most people who own an espresso machine understand it’s a luxury.
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bongobingo1 ◴[] No.41530305[source]
Moka and espresso machines produce different coffee though. They operate on the same principle but the pressures are much different.
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timvdalen ◴[] No.41530363[source]
So are coffee from a 250 EUR "espresso" machine and a higher-end one
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1. stiray ◴[] No.41530399[source]
Actually higher end ones are at 20.000 euros, so I will rather drink my 6666 espressos in bar, made by professional, on 20k euros machine with zero effort. I am good for next 18 years.