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Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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420 points rvz | 9 comments | 31 Aug 24 13:28 UTC | HN request time: 3.072s | source | bottom
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joejohnson ◴[31 Aug 24 14:27 UTC] No.41409095[source]▶
Hopefully most people migrate to one of the alternatives not owned by an American oligarch
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adventured ◴[31 Aug 24 14:34 UTC] No.41409158[source]▶
There are no possible alternatives to US based services unless you enjoy extreme restrictions on speech. Europe has become a big no-go zone for speech over the past decade, they're outright hostile and authoritarian about it (with only a few exceptions among European nations). And the direction re liberalism and human rights in Europe is overwhelmingly hostile toward speech. And for South America, Africa and Asia you can entirely forget about it, there are no reliable speech protected locations in any of those.
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mstipetic[dead post] ◴[31 Aug 24 14:41 UTC] No.41409219[source]▶
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1. hybrid_study ◴[01 Sep 24 00:03 UTC] No.41412995[source]▶
this is called Popper's Tolerance Paradox, and you are quite right.

it's truly amazing how many people dont really get that having only 99% free speech is just fine

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2. semiquaver ◴[01 Sep 24 00:30 UTC] No.41413140[source]▶
99% of speech is bland and unobjectionable. It’s the 1% that needs protection.
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3. TheCleric ◴[01 Sep 24 01:06 UTC] No.41413347[source]▶
It isn’t the problem of having only 99% free speech. It’s getting people to agree to which 99%.
4. myko ◴[01 Sep 24 01:10 UTC] No.41413371[source]▶
i disagree, for example holocaust denial is not allowed in Germany and that seems reasonable and to work well

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/germanys-laws-ant...

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5. gruez ◴[01 Sep 24 01:21 UTC] No.41413428[source]▶
Exactly. It's specifically the objectionable speech that needs protection, not stuff like "cats are cute".
6. throwaway48476 ◴[01 Sep 24 02:12 UTC] No.41413657[source]▶
In Arizona a giant home builder complained about a home inspector called CyFy posting tiktoks showing their shoddy construction. What you consider bland and unobjectionable they get very upset about.

https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/we-were-una...

7. computerfriend ◴[01 Sep 24 04:33 UTC] No.41414308{3}[source]▶
It doesn't seem reasonable or work well to the holocaust deniers.
8. WrongAssumption ◴[01 Sep 24 04:45 UTC] No.41414368{3}[source]▶
Did you read the article you posted? It doesn’t sound like it’s working well at all.
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9. myko ◴[06 Sep 24 00:49 UTC] No.41461789{4}[source]▶
Having lived in Germany and the US I disagree with your assessment of the situation