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mmmlinux ◴[] No.41192550[source]
And still no USB C on the official devboard.
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naikrovek ◴[] No.41193504[source]
> And still no USB C on the official devboard.

Do you live in a universe where micro-USB cables are not available, or something? There's gonna be something or other that needs micro-USB for the next decade, so just buy a few and move on. They're not expensive.

[later edit: I bet it has to do with backwards compatibility. They don't want people to need to rework case designs to use something that is meant as a drop-in replacement for the Pi Pico 1.]

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wolrah ◴[] No.41195582[source]
> Do you live in a universe where micro-USB cables are not available, or something? There's gonna be something or other that needs micro-USB for the next decade, so just buy a few and move on. They're not expensive.

I live in a universe where type C has been the standard interface for devices for years, offering significant advantages with no downsides other than a slightly higher cost connector, and it's reasonable to be frustrated at vendors releasing new devices using the old connector.

It's certainly not as bad as some vendors of networking equipment who still to this day release new designs with Mini-B connectors that are actually officially deprecated, but it's not good nor worthy of defending in any way.

> I bet it has to do with backwards compatibility. They don't want people to need to rework case designs to use something that is meant as a drop-in replacement for the Pi Pico 1.

Your logic is likely accurate here, but that just moves the stupid choice back a generation. It was equally dumb and annoying to have Micro-B instead of C on a newly designed and released device in 2021 as it is in 2024.

The type C connector was standardized in 2014 and became standard on phones and widely utilized on laptops starting in 2016.

IMO the only good reason to have a mini-B or micro-B connector on a device is for physical compatibility with a legacy design that existed prior to 2016. Compatibility with a previous bad decision is not a good reason, fix your mistakes.

Type A on hosts will still be a thing for a long time, and full-size type B still makes sense for large devices that are not often plugged/unplugged where the size is actually a benefit, but the mini-B connector is deprecated and the micro-B connector should be.

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1. bigstrat2003 ◴[] No.41196990[source]
Micro-B is fine. This is such an overblown non-issue I am shocked that people are making a big deal of it.
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2. crote ◴[] No.41199708[source]
It's not a huge deal, but it's still a very strange choice on a product released in 2024.

Pretty much everyone has a USB-C cable lying around on their desk because they use it to charge their smartphone. I probably have a Micro-B cable lying around in a big box of cables somewhere, last used several years ago. Even cheap Chinese garbage comes with USB-C these days.

Sure, Micro-B is technically just fine, but why did Raspberry Pi go out of their way to make their latest product more cumbersome to use?