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neugiergiraffe ◴[] No.40715951[source]
Can someone explain to me why, over time, democratic states tend to drift into mass surveillance ?

Is it beacuse a lot of people feel unsafe or is it because the people supposed to ensure our security see it as the "easiest" or most effective way to do their job?

Is there so much benefit to having a fuctioning mass surveilance apparatus, and if yes, who benefits of it if not the people for whom these rules for in the first place?

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1. EasyMark ◴[] No.40724897[source]
All police organizations will want complete control. It’s up to democracies to fight back. I think politicians are noticing the public are vulnerable to fear mongering about kids and crime and the “big bad cloud” and using that to get more power for their police apparatus, it doesn’t matter if you’re in a democracy or totalitarian state, governments want more power, all the time, every time. Except in a democracy you can fight back by voting, publishing, contacting representatives. It is getting harder but it’s still possible. Such things aren’t possible in Russia or China without Massive Upheaval and the dictator fearing loss of control, but otherwise no big deal for most changes in the laws.