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Chat Control Must Be Stopped – Now

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neugiergiraffe ◴[18 Jun 24 10:16 UTC] No.40715951[source]▶
Can someone explain to me why, over time, democratic states tend to drift into mass surveillance ?

Is it beacuse a lot of people feel unsafe or is it because the people supposed to ensure our security see it as the "easiest" or most effective way to do their job?

Is there so much benefit to having a fuctioning mass surveilance apparatus, and if yes, who benefits of it if not the people for whom these rules for in the first place?

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1. lm28469 ◴[18 Jun 24 10:26 UTC] No.40716012[source]▶
> democratic states

Democracy is a spectrum and it comes in many flavors.

For example nobody voted for von der Leyen, the French voted against the EU referendum in 2005 but the government still went with it, there hasn't been any referendum in France since

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2. raxxorraxor ◴[18 Jun 24 13:59 UTC] No.40717972[source]▶
Which are examples of democratic deficiencies that might be indicative of the EU not being particularly democratic.