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Run0, a systemd based alternative to sudo, announced

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466 points CoolCold | 11 comments | 29 Apr 24 23:59 UTC | HN request time: 1.913s | source | bottom
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fn-mote ◴[30 Apr 24 16:01 UTC] No.40212557[source]▶
Overall, this seems great.

However...

> [...] by default it will tint your terminal background in a reddish tone while you are operating with elevated privileges

?!! ouch ... seems orthogonal to the actual important parts.

Disclaimer: I didn't try it.

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bityard ◴[30 Apr 24 20:08 UTC] No.40215695[source]▶
This is a perfect example of a choice that a developer makes to suit his/her personal preference and environment, believing that everyone does (or should) use their computer the same way. Which is sadly becoming a more common trend.

I like the idea, but I don't think it should be on by default. The rest of us have just used root-specific shell prompts for the last few decades or so.

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TZubiri ◴[30 Apr 24 20:40 UTC] No.40216070[source]▶
It's fine.

Not every software needs to be infinitely configurable and open source just in case the configurations don't cover the needs of all.

We need opinionated software, if you don't want to make any choice for me, you can't even give me an assembly editor for fear of forcing your CPU arch of choice.

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shrimp_emoji ◴[30 Apr 24 22:39 UTC] No.40217307[source]▶
Counterpoint: GNOME and the modern GTK framework

(I needn't say more.)

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1. yoyohello13 ◴[30 Apr 24 22:57 UTC] No.40217491[source]▶
Gnome is great if you're willing to do things their way. I Like Gnome a lot actually.
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2. flaptrap ◴[30 Apr 24 23:46 UTC] No.40217854[source]▶
Gnome's UI peaked at 2.32. Find out how the users operate and implement so users can work efficiently. Don't make changes just to make your mark or to make users work on the desktop like they see on a cell phone. That is so basic.
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3. MadnessASAP ◴[01 May 24 02:18 UTC] No.40218831[source]▶
I have no idea why Gnome keeps on insisting on breaking expectations. From the shell as a whole to the widgets and even the window titlebars they seem to insist on being different for the sake of being different.
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4. jimbosis ◴[01 May 24 02:30 UTC] No.40218906[source]▶
I don't know if you are DE shopping, but I've been very happy for the past few years with the MATE Desktop Environment, which "...is the continuation of GNOME 2. It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop environment using traditional metaphors for Linux and other Unix-like operating systems."

https://mate-desktop.org/

Among a great number of things I really like, I will mention that Caja, the MATE version of GNOME 2's Nautilus file manager, can still be switched to spatial mode.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_file_manager

Generally speaking, I too really liked GNOME 2.32 and its predecessors, and, as far as I'm concerned, MATE is as it describes itself.

EDIT: Wording mistake.

5. loeg ◴[01 May 24 03:08 UTC] No.40219092[source]▶
These days KDE gets a lot of the same things right that GNOME 2 did.
6. abenga ◴[01 May 24 04:26 UTC] No.40219501[source]▶
Gnome is always getting better (if you want to do things the Gnome way). Why should a DE show any elements begging to be clicked on my desktop while I am working (window list, etc)? I am only interested in what's in my IDE, terminal, and browser. Present Gnome comes closest to my ideal of fading into the background and letting me focus on my tasks.
7. abenga ◴[01 May 24 04:29 UTC] No.40219511{3}[source]▶
Because their choices are better, at least for some of us. Users who prefer the traditional desktop paradigm have a wealth of alternative DEs to choose from.
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8. MadnessASAP ◴[01 May 24 04:39 UTC] No.40219561{4}[source]▶
I suppose my brutally minimalist Sway config with barely there titlebars and a skinny little status bar and not an icon, button, or widget in sight doesn't give me great standing to call for a respect of conventions.

I suppose I should say I found Gnomes luridly chunky decorations and widgets to be personally offensive.

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9. abenga ◴[01 May 24 05:58 UTC] No.40220001{5}[source]▶
What widgets? Gnome has just the one black bar at the top.
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10. MadnessASAP ◴[01 May 24 06:28 UTC] No.40220174{6}[source]▶
And it's a thick monster with all kinds of extra crap (I'm my not so humble opinion) shoved in it.
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11. abenga ◴[01 May 24 08:32 UTC] No.40220867{7}[source]▶
It literally has an activities button, the time and date, and a tiny button for interacting with settings on the right.