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ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire

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smoothjazz ◴[26 Jan 24 14:39 UTC] No.39143094[source]▶
Glad to see Israel face some responsibility for its horrific acts against civilians.

> The court ruled that Israel must do all it can to prevent genocide, including refraining from killing Palestinians or causing harm to them

Sounds like a ceasefire to me. How else would they do this? Definitely not with any of the military tactics Israel is currently using.

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bitshiftfaced ◴[26 Jan 24 14:53 UTC] No.39143256[source]▶
I believe the court reaffirmed Israel's right to defend itself. Presumably, the "all it can to prevent" wording is meant to work around things we expect a nation must do, such as defending itself from attack.
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smoothjazz ◴[26 Jan 24 14:54 UTC] No.39143268[source]▶
It explicitly says they must stop killing Palestinians. None of their current military tactics satisfy this demand.
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bitshiftfaced ◴[26 Jan 24 15:01 UTC] No.39143370[source]▶
The court referenced article II of the Genocide Convention here, which includes "Killing members of the group." Any country that commits genocide in the way outlined by the convention would be in violation, not just Israel.
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1. brighteyes ◴[26 Jan 24 21:42 UTC] No.39148900[source]▶
Unfortunately for the Palestinians, that is not what was ruled. They were hoping for a full ceasefire like what you have interpreted, but they are very disappointed in the ruling because it does not say that.

What it does say is

1. Israel must do more to prevent the possibility of genocide. Genocide is killing a people with the intent of killing them for the sake of destroying them, and not as collateral damage, so it does not mean stopping all death. Collateral damage, unfortunately, remains on the table.

2. Israel must report back in a month with how they are doing that. For example, they could show lower amounts of collateral damage, an increase in aid, punishments for officials that make statements that could be construed as genocidal, and so forth.

That is better than nothing, to be certain, but it is far from a ceasefire, unfortunately.