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ICJ orders Israel to prevent genocide in Gaza, stops short of ordering ceasefire

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aaomidi ◴[26 Jan 24 19:00 UTC] No.39146547[source]▶
I do think that their future Feb ruling is going to call for a ceasefire. If they called for one now, Israel & especially the US were just going to ignore it and reduce the power of the court.

Israel has created a beast that I don't think they can control themselves. I do think that the court is going to get more legitimacy after they explicitly tell Israel to __chill__, for Israel not to chill, and then get the ceasefire ruling against them & potentially an intensification of the genocide case.

Meanwhile, unfortunately, real people are suffering so these political games can be played.

I am so deeply disappointed in the Biden administration here. They're throwing away a lot of the good work they've done, and are actively getting Trump elected. People, naturally, do not want to participate in an election that is giving them a choice between ${person_currently_helping_a_genocide} and ${person_that_will_intensify_genocide}. You're just going to get voter apathy, and the consequences from that.

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1. aaomidi ◴[26 Jan 24 20:44 UTC] No.39148032[source]▶
I'm not sure what I will do, but I'm not voting for Trump either way.

There is a lot written about civil disobedience through not partaking in electoral politics, and that's _likely_ the direction I'm going to go if Biden does not change his tone (and hopefully actually do a proper apology for his actions so far).

This sucks, and I'll participate in local and even congressional elections, but for president I can not really find myself voting for Biden. I do not expect myself to agree 100% with any candidate, but there are certain red-lines that a candidate can not cross. I have a few of those, being anti-abortion is not something I can tolerate in any candidate. Being pro-mass-killing-looking-like-genocide is also one. I suspect this feeling is not unique to me.

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2. MeImCounting ◴[26 Jan 24 22:22 UTC] No.39149517[source]▶
Personally regardless of any other stance I will always vote along the abortion lines. I would hope others would be able to prioritize that as well. I dont want to see the US turn into a theocratic dictatorship.
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3. aaomidi ◴[26 Jan 24 22:48 UTC] No.39149870[source]▶
That's why I'm still going to be voting in congressional elections.
4. CapricornNoble ◴[27 Jan 24 01:37 UTC] No.39151438[source]▶
Abortion is probably one of the leading causes of the demographic destruction (and by extension, destruction of political influence) of the black American community.

https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2020/02/25/abortion-the-over...

Not only religious fanatics oppose it in its current form in America.

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5. MeImCounting ◴[27 Jan 24 03:11 UTC] No.39152078{3}[source]▶
Far and away the greatest opposition to abortion is religious in nature. Certainly other groups might oppose it for varying reasons but they are an extreme minority.

I would even venture to say that those other groups oppose it in part because of cultural effects of religious ethics infecting the rest of society.

6. aaomidi ◴[27 Jan 24 03:23 UTC] No.39152172{3}[source]▶
I am for choice of people to decide if they have kids. These arguments have no effect on me.