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Roritharr ◴[] No.38483715[source]
Anduril is one of these companies I would leave my own startup for to work for. I love what they are doing.
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throwaway234a ◴[] No.38484777[source]
It's not that great. I would know, I work there. The marketing is the shit though. It makes all the tech look like it's the greatest thing ever. The mentality here at this company is hack hack hack and the quality of the product reflect this. Don't expect German engineered precision. Expect products with poor quality, poor reliability and a failure rate that is very very high.

What is good about this company is that we build things fast and there's not of lot of slacking going on that you see in most of the defense industry. We make things fast and cheap, but they're very poor quality.

To give one example take a look at our counter UAS:

https://www.anduril.com/capability/counter-uas/

Watch the video it will give you chills. What the video won't show is how ineffective this product is. The enemy sends one drone, maybe it will work. If the enemy sends 3 or 4 we're done. This shit barely works, I wouldn't trust my life with it at all. All tests and demonstrations showed utter failure and STILL even though we failed on all the tests we STILL got a contract from the government. There's for sure money changing hands behind the scenes.

It also doesn't show you how crappy the UI is. You think we have a custom UI device to control this thing? No. It's react running in chrome on windows. It's also really poorly designed. The initial UI was made by some kid straight out of school and it was just poorly optimized. And despite this... The government still bought it, simply because a crap product is the only available option.

And to be real with you, we can't beat China tech. In terms of the quality, price and speed ratio, China dominates anduril by a landslide. The US can dominate on quality, but we we give up speed and price as a result. And if you want quality, anduril is not at the forefront of this at all.

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mlindner ◴[] No.38492033[source]
> China dominates anduril by a landslide

I mean, obviously. Anduril is one company, and still a relatively small company at that.

> And if you want quality, anduril is not at the forefront of this at all.

The US, as you mention, already has quality. We need speed and things that are "good enough" right now, not quality. Anduril seems to be heading pretty good in that direction.

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1. throwaway234a ◴[] No.38495688[source]
They are heading in that direction slowly. Overall the products are pretty unreliable Probably two decades before it gets really good and by then there'll be so much red tape the company will have lost all the speed they have now. I can assure you our products are nowhere near good enough as of right now.

That's why there isn't a single video of a live demonstration against enemies. It's not that good. Palmer "suggested" our stuff is being used in Ukraine but how come I see tons of videos cheap drones operating in Ukraine and no anduril products? Because cheap drones are > then anything anduril has built.

>I mean, obviously. Anduril is one company, and still a relatively small company at that.

I meant that the average company in China operating in the same space can beat out anduril. Take DJI for example. Not even primarily a military company, their products BETTER than ours in the field of battle. There products were so effective in Ukraine that DJI had to write safe guards to prevent usage. Anduril can't hold a candle to this.

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2. throwfurther232 ◴[] No.38511106[source]
If you're convinced about the things you're talking about (and acting out like this) then you should just go to another company. I have seen the videos you say you haven't, and they aren't shared because of operational security. (They're also grainy and low-res so have little marketing value.)