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From S3 to R2: An economic opportunity

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274 points dangoldin | 8 comments | 02 Nov 23 19:15 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source | bottom
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josevalerio ◴[02 Nov 23 23:08 UTC] No.38121710[source]▶
Here’s a tweet from Corey Quinn describing how bonkers R2 pricing is:

> let’s remember that the internet is 1-to-many. If 1 million people download that 1GB this month, my cost with @cloudflare R2 this way rounds up to 13¢. With @awscloud S3 it’s $59,247.52.

https://x.com/quinnypig/status/1443076111651401731?s=46

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stingraycharles ◴[03 Nov 23 00:22 UTC] No.38122482[source]▶
To be fair, 1 million downloads @ 1GB is a lot of data transfer. CloudFlare is likely losing money on this.
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1. pier25 ◴[03 Nov 23 01:54 UTC] No.38123392[source]▶
Why would they?

Cloudflare doesn't pay for egress and neither does AWS.

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2. stingraycharles ◴[03 Nov 23 02:43 UTC] No.38123800[source]▶
But their egress capacity is limited, not? We're talking about 1PB per month here. If every customer of them would be paying only 13 cents a month and pushing out 1PB per month, wouldn't they need to significantly upgrade their hardware and lose money in the process?
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3. qaq ◴[03 Nov 23 03:31 UTC] No.38124132[source]▶
They are already serving roughly 20% of internet traffic as is so there is some natural limit to this whole thing.
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4. eastdakota ◴[03 Nov 23 04:54 UTC] No.38124680{3}[source]▶
Yup. Bandwidth at scale is effectively free.

The greatest trick AWS ever pulled was convincing the world you needed to pay for bandwidth.

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5. 55555 ◴[03 Nov 23 05:31 UTC] No.38124907{4}[source]▶
Well you’ve won me over.
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6. weird-eye-issue ◴[03 Nov 23 06:51 UTC] No.38125354[source]▶
"If every customer of them would be paying only 13 cents a month and pushing out 1PB per month, wouldn't they need to significantly upgrade their hardware and lose money in the process?"

Yes, but every customer would never do this, so what is your point?

You have to think more in terms of averages for things like this

7. Sai_ ◴[03 Nov 23 14:05 UTC] No.38128952{5}[source]▶
Just as an fyi, eastDakota is in Cloudflare’s executive team. Think he’s their CEO.

Not saying not to trust him - he’s probably a very reasonable and standup guy - but you should know this about him before taking his word on a topic like this.

No disrespect @eastDakota

8. pier25 ◴[03 Nov 23 18:51 UTC] No.38133231[source]▶
> If every customer of them would be paying only 13 cents a month and pushing out 1PB per month...

Which is never going to happen for legitimate use cases.

And Cloudflare has DDOS protection for ilegitimate ones.