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_20p0 ◴[] No.36215876[source]
This guy is damned good. I sponsored him on Github because his software is dope. I also like how when some controversy erupted on the project he just ejected the controversial people and moved on. Good stewardship. Great code.

I recall something like when he first ported it and it worked on my M1 Max he hadn't even yet tested it on Apple Silicon since he didn't have the hardware.

Honestly, with this and whisper, I am a huge fan. Good luck to him and the new company.

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killthebuddha ◴[] No.36216131[source]
Another important detail about the ejections that I think is particularly classy is that the people he ejected are broadly considered to have world-class technical skills. In other words, he was very explicitly prioritizing collaborative potential > technical skill. Maybe a future BDFL[1]!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benevolent_dictator_for_life

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jart ◴[] No.36219666[source]
Gerganov was prioritizing collaboration with 4chan who raided his GitHub to demand a change written by a transgender woman be reverted. There was so much hate speech and immaturity thrown around (words like tranny troon cucking muh model) that it's a real embarrassment (to those of us deeply want to see local models succeed) that one of the smartest guys working on the problem was taken in by all that. You can't run a collaborative environment that's open when you pander to hate, because hate subverts communities; it's impossible to compromise with anonymous trolls who harass a public figure over physical traits about her body she can't change.

You don't have to take my word on it. Here are some archives of the 4chan threads where they coordinated the raid. It went on for like a month. https://archive.is/EX7Fq https://archive.is/enjpf https://archive.is/Kbjtt https://archive.is/HGwZm https://archive.is/pijMv https://archive.is/M7hLJ https://archive.is/4UxKP https://archive.is/IB9bv https://archive.is/p6Q2q https://archive.is/phCGN https://archive.is/M6AF1 https://archive.is/mXoBs https://archive.is/68Ayg https://archive.is/DamPp https://archive.is/DiQC2 https://archive.is/DeX8Z https://archive.is/gStQ1

If you read these threads and see how nasty these little monsters are, you can probably imagine how Gerganov must have felt. He was probably scared they'd harass him too, since 4chan acts like he's their boy. I wouldn't even be surprised if he's one of them. Plus it was weak leadership on his part to disappear for days, suddenly show up again to neutral knight the situation (https://justine.lol/neutral-knight.png) by telling his team members they're no longer welcome, and then going back and deleting his comment later. It goes to show that no matter how brilliant you are at hard technical skills, you can still be totally clueless about people.

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1. jart ◴[] No.36220764[source]
Are you talking about Slaren? I wrote a blog post promoting him a while back. You can read it here: https://justine.lol/mmap/ It also spotlights other unsung heroes who played important roles in helping me bring mmap() to the machine learning community. As for me being trans, the problem is that 4chan does care. The /g/ local model discussion board was consumed with discussing my gender status for more than a month. Stirring up hate is how they rally anons to venture out on raids which have damaged my professional relationships.
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2. read_if_gay_ ◴[] No.36224289[source]
>I wrote a blog post promoting him a while back.

That's about 2 weeks after the drama around PR 613, which you factually touted as "your work" in several different places.