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OpenGL 3.1 on Asahi Linux

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tormeh ◴[] No.36214049[source]
Sorry, but what's the point? Why not just buy a Linux laptop and have everything work out of the box? Why are Linux enthusiasts putting so much effort into supporting hardware from companies that - at best - ignore Linux? This question is also valid for other manufacturers, btw, not just Apple. So much time wasted doing free labor for hardware companies that will just break your stuff with the next hardware iteration.
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1. kaba0 ◴[] No.36214270[source]
> Why not just buy a Linux laptop

Please tell me where is it because I will buy it instantly, and I’m only half kidding.

I don’t see how making linux available on possibly the currently available best laptop hardware any different to the previous decades of hacking a working wifi driver into the kernel. It was always an uphill battle, and we should be thankful for those who take up the hard work!

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2. josephcsible ◴[] No.36215456[source]
> Please tell me where is it because I will buy it instantly, and I’m only half kidding.

System76? Star Labs? Purism? HP Dev One?

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3. ac29 ◴[] No.36215507[source]
System76? Framework? Even Dell has a number of Linux laptops.

If your requirements are "must run an Apple designed ARM processor", then yes, your choices are pretty limited.

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4. cultofmetatron ◴[] No.36215643[source]
system 76 makes linux ready hardware. personally I'm waiting for a framework which does have some linux support
5. nsonha ◴[] No.36216714[source]
ANY arm processor, do tell
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6. hedora ◴[] No.36217773[source]
System76 doesn't ship reasonable screens (they are all 144Hz 1080p):

https://system76.com/laptops-ultraportables https://system76.com/laptops-powerful

The only exception is the Bonobo, but it comes with a discrete GPU, so its battery life + weight are going to suck. Also, its keyboard is off center.

Most of the star labs machines have low resolution displays, but I can find nothing wrong with this one. If you choose AMD, a reasonable config is $2600, which is comparable to Apple. However, they are only building 10,000 units, and taking preorders, so it might be unobtainable:

https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter

The purism offering seems OK except that it is a 10th generation intel, and those were extremely bad, even by recent intel standards. Maybe they'll get an AMD refresh out the door with the same ergonomics.

The HP has an off-centered keyboard and trackpad and a 1080p display.

So, of those four vendors, there's one model that's vaguely competitive, but it's a limited production run pre-order.

7. sliken ◴[] No.36218787[source]
HP Dev one works well, kudos to System76 for the desktop env.

It has the worst LCD panel I've seen in many years. It's not the resolution just poor contrast and poor color accuracy. It pains me to see it.

They went on sale recently, I bought one, and shortly afterwards (a few months ago) they stopped selling them.

8. yjftsjthsd-h ◴[] No.36219469{3}[source]
Any? https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Lenovo_IdeaPad_Flex_3_Chr... is dirt cheap and runs PMOS quite well. Actually Chromebooks in general are a good bet when combined with PMOS - or even not combined with PMOS, if you can work with a normal Linux VM on top of ChromeOS.
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9. floatboth ◴[] No.36220769{3}[source]
Thinkpad x13s is an okay option, but Qualcomm is IMO more cursed than Apple
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10. nsonha ◴[] No.36221975{4}[source]
well obviously not a machine with 4GB of RAM running outdated CPU
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11. nsonha ◴[] No.36224911{4}[source]
What do you mean?
12. yjftsjthsd-h ◴[] No.36230003{5}[source]
You said "ANY arm processor". If you'd like to further constrain the exact requirements, that would be a useful clarification. (Although, I suspect that some Chromebook will still work)
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13. nsonha ◴[] No.36237821{6}[source]
It's to respond to the remark that people are simping for Apple while in fact, they're just after a good arm-based laptop.