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Mormons Make Great FBI Recruits

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darksaints ◴[] No.35773586[source]
As a former mormon with most of my family in intelligence or military, the Security Clearance reason may be valid but I call bullshit on the language skills reason. Most mormon missionaries will never learn enough of their respective mission languages to actually have normal conversations, as 99% of their conversations revolve around religion. And the FBI doesn’t really have an emphasis on language anyway, that is more of a CIA thing (which also recruits a lot of Mormons). It’s funny how all of the glowing traits that are claimed about Mormons that are cited as reasons to hire them always come from the perspective of other Mormons.

That being said, this is the first one that I’ve read that has slightly touched on one of the major reasons: Mormon nepotism. The Mormon Mafia talk in this article may sound like a joke, but it is very much a real phenomenon. If you hire a single Mormon, and that person achieves a position of influence in your company, you will wake up some day to the realization that there are now hundreds of Mormons...and they all had a say in hiring each other, and they all give glowing reviews about each other, and they all end up in the same organizations, and they all get promoted in lockstep with each other. The Mormon Mafia isn't an FBI thing, it is a real phenomenon that happens in a lot of different places. I got a great job out of college primarily out of Mormon nepotism. I got fired after leaving Mormonism for the same reason.

A good way to prevent this from happening is, not surprisingly, a general anti-nepotism practice: don’t allow people interview candidates from their alma mater. 99% of these asshole Mormons that try to create Mormon Mafias within companies went to BYU, and 99% of the people they want to hire at the exclusion of others also went to BYU. It works surprisingly well for non-Mormon nepotism as well...never underestimate an HBS grad's tendency to think other HBS grads are the bee's knees. Don’t let them have a say in their hiring.

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seanw444 ◴[] No.35773612[source]
Best counter to workplace discrimination: more workplace discrimination.

Get an authority involved if you have proof.

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alex_sf ◴[] No.35773712[source]
It's not really discrimination to say "you have a potential bias on this particular candidate, you shouldn't be involved in the decision".
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freedomben ◴[] No.35774016[source]
I would consider that discrimination, unless it applied to all religions. e.g. if you're a Catholic, you can't interview a Catholic, etc. But even that I don't think would legally fly because (IANAL) I believe religion is a protected class.
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1. darksaints ◴[] No.35774165[source]
It's not discrimination because it has nothing to do with whether Mormons are hired. It has everything to do with who has a say in hiring them. BYU grads can still be hired, they just have to be hired by someone who isn't going to bias their decision with their personal beliefs.