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“How America took out the Nord Stream pipeline”

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688 points hunglee2 | 3 comments | 08 Feb 23 12:50 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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mmastrac ◴[08 Feb 23 19:03 UTC] No.34713024[source]▶
It's a great story, but it's all unsourced and could be a decent Tom Clancy story at best. You could probably write a similar one with Russia or German agents as the key players and be just as convincing.

The only anchor in reality appears to be Biden suggesting that they knew how to take it out which seems like a pretty weak place to build a large story.

What I find particularly odd is that this entire thing appears to be based on a single, unnamed source "with direct knowledge of the operational planning".

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rsync ◴[08 Feb 23 19:35 UTC] No.34713618[source]▶
"You could probably write a similar one with Russia ..."

I disagree - there is no credible motive here for Russia and, in fact, the outcome was directly opposed to every outcome they are, or were trying, to achieve.

Not only do I, as a US citizen, believe that the US perpetrated this act but further: I believe it is an overtly hostile action against EU citizens and, particularly, Germans, who will suffer the most economically.

EU states are now buying US natural gas like we always wanted them to. How much pain and suffering were we willing to inflict to make that happen ?

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ribit ◴[08 Feb 23 23:59 UTC] No.34717613[source]▶
There is a lot of credible motive for the fascist russia. First, make allies distrust each other, sabotaging their unity. Second, create panic among the EU population, hoping for increased pressure to lift the sanctions and stop support of Ukraine defending their homeland. Third, force the issue with pending legal approvals for the remaining new pipeline.

Fortunately, EU managed to store up plenty of gas and the winter was mild, so russian blackmail has failed.

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1. MisterTea ◴[09 Feb 23 00:23 UTC] No.34717851{3}[source]▶
> Fortunately, EU managed to store up plenty of gas and the winter was mild, so russian blackmail has failed.

Hooray for global warming?

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2. ribit ◴[09 Feb 23 02:54 UTC] No.34719192[source]▶
Are you saying that the world should just bend over to russian imperialism and merrily let them commit cultural genocide because global warming is bad? Cause I am at a loss what your comment is supposed to mean. If not for imperialism and lack of foresight and integrity among both the elites and the general population, we wouldn’t have either global warming nor these kind of wars. Global warming is already here, and it’s shitty enough, but if it will help bring down those imperialist monsters I certainly won’t cry over it.
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3. MisterTea ◴[09 Feb 23 13:14 UTC] No.34723433[source]▶
Humor eludes most people.