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333 points indigodaddy | 1 comments | 13 Nov 22 02:02 UTC | HN request time: 0s | source
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franciscop ◴[13 Nov 22 05:38 UTC] No.33580409[source]▶
> "My media content had been pushed aside into a submenu while the app promotes its own streaming media and premium services instead."

This is my biggest pet-peeve coming from Linux world. In Linux the music players you find bundled with different distros are simple, but they just work.

However since moving to MacOS, I have to either use iTunes or Music, and in Android the default music player and the latest updates of the alt music player I installed the author problem is true; they expect me to use their services and that's front and clear, while my local music is hidden away in a menu button.

This is a fairly ridiculous situation IMHO (well, solitaire in Windows getting ads/online is slightly more, but I'll never go there) since a music player that fulfills my needs is pretty easy: show a list of artists, play either the whole artist or a single album in shuffle mode.

Attempt 1: https://twitter.com/FPresencia/status/1364892370509127681

Attempt 2: https://twitter.com/FPresencia/status/1578720636645826560

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SyrupThinker ◴[13 Nov 22 11:43 UTC] No.33582153[source]▶
> However since moving to MacOS, I have to either use iTunes or Music, […]; they expect me to use their services and that's front and clear, while my local music is hidden away in a menu button.

I'm not sure what you are referring to here. Listening to your own music in the macOS Music app is as simple as dragging (importing) the music into Music.app and selecting any of the options ("Recently Added", "Songs", etc.) in the Library sidebar.

Most media players I've used work like that. The application reopens where you last left off, so it is not like the Apple Music "Explore" or "Listen Now" page is shown on every launch to push the service on you.

I think the complaint makes sense in relation to the Apple Music sidebar items, but considering that there are users who want to use Apple Music, how would you surface it without having an easily discoverable item in the sidebar? I think having the option to hide it would be enough to alleviate it, but apparently one cannot, so that's a point against Apple here.

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1. franciscop ◴[14 Nov 22 05:01 UTC] No.33590338[source]▶
> How would you surface it without having an easily discoverable item in the sidebar?

There are many ways!

- The "music player" plays your local music, the "music shop/service/itunes/spotify" can handle music stream/buying/etc, which gets incorporated into your music player. Or you'd have all your local and streaming music (IF you subscribe) mixed all together seamlessly.

- Allow to easily change the default music player in the system. They make it impossible now, you have to fiddle with 3rd party software and scripts.

- Only require agreeing with the terms if you are going to buy music, not for playing your own music. Don't analyze my local music for your algorithms, thanks.

And TBF, Apple Music is still one of the best closed source music players I've tried, but pushing for their service hard is a no-go, I don't want to feel like I'm being sold at every time I'm using a simple app.