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Mikhail Gorbachev has died

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lapcat ◴[] No.32655071[source]
The United States didn't do enough to help Russia transition to democracy in the 1990s. There was no "Marshall Plan" after the Cold War like there was after World War II. This was a huge mistake, and we see the consequences now, with Russia having turned back toward totalitarianism and imperialism. Sadly, it seems that Gorbachev's efforts were mostly for naught. But it was courageous at the time to open up the Soviet Union to glasnost and perestroika.

Of course Yeltsin was a big part of the problem too.

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thehappypm ◴[] No.32655208[source]
I think the big difference is the oligarchs. The USSR had already been transitioned to a resource state, and there was no actual rebuilding that needed to happen. The Marshall plan was almost easy because you could tally up all the broken bridges and say “itll cost us $X to fix”. What’s the equivalent for post USSR? What ended up happening was oligarchs swooped in to take over from the central planners, and it’s not clear how the US could have helped steer it differently short of going to war with Russia’s upper class.
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JumpCrisscross ◴[] No.32655355[source]
> the big difference is the oligarchs

The oligarchs were minted in the late 80s and 90s. They weren’t a preëxisting power structure. Putin came to power with their and the FSB’s help. (He was also popular for not being incompetent.)

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1. blockwriter ◴[] No.32655492[source]
Wasn't the preexisting power structure the Soviet military? I thought that that Soviet generals stationed near large and valuable resources simply decided that these large and valuable resources had become their private property. Organized crimes and powerful politicians filled in the gaps.
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2. thriftwy ◴[] No.32655640[source]
Soviet military can't do nothing. It's not Latin America or Myanmar.

They will just sit there and wait for orders to come.

3. vintermann ◴[] No.32659739[source]
No, none of the oligarchs were generals. They were usually entrepreneurs (Russia always had them, openly under Perestroika) who were well connected with one or more of

* The state apparatus

* The gray/black economy (or the criminal underworld)

* Foreign interests

The Soviet military was tightly politically controlled, they were well aware of the dangers of popular generals.