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The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

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733 points gjsman-1000 | 5 comments | 26 Jul 22 03:46 UTC | HN request time: 0.001s | source
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rtpg ◴[26 Jul 22 04:56 UTC] No.32234399[source]▶
I'm not hyped about most of the DRM stuff (and yeah, frog boiling is definitely a worry, though I don't know how we could ever end up with devices that can't boot alternative OSes just cuz of how servers are set up).

But I am personally glad to see hardware-level key stores show up on all CPUs. Maybe this is already a thing and I'm being duped by Apple for thinking it's good, but it feels good to me.

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gjsman-1000 ◴[26 Jul 22 05:04 UTC] No.32234447[source]▶
I'm not really worried myself that alternative Operating Systems will be locked out. However, I am concerned that the functionality of alternative Operating Systems will be locked out. If you see the (speculative but grounded) area near the end of the article - imagine if assertion becomes popular for things such as games or digital movies or the school WiFi. Your Linux PC will never be able to do that, and WINE (probably) won't be able to help. Won't stop you from hosting a server, but it will make it much harder to enjoy a Linux desktop. That's an issue.
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vladvasiliu ◴[26 Jul 22 06:25 UTC] No.32235020[source]▶
> imagine if assertion becomes popular for things such as [...] digital movies

You don't need that. Streaming is already crippled on Linux. Hell, Netflix won't even stream full quality on Chrome!

> https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

    4K Ultra HD on a computer

    Netflix is available in Ultra HD on Windows and Mac computers with:

      Microsoft Edge for Windows

      Windows app for Windows 10 and Windows 11

      Safari for MacOS 11.0 or later
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1. arpa ◴[26 Jul 22 07:44 UTC] No.32235481[source]▶
... and this is why piracy will always continue to be a viable alternative.
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2. hammyhavoc ◴[26 Jul 22 08:36 UTC] No.32235787[source]▶
Until access to the internet or methods of circumventing DRM are crippled without submitting to these technologies. That's the road we're heading down. Can't hack the current-gen Xbox, apparently. I'm wondering if someone will take that as a "challenge accepted".
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3. Beltiras ◴[26 Jul 22 09:51 UTC] No.32236250[source]▶
> Can't hack the current-gen Xbox, apparently.

Yet.

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4. Avamander ◴[26 Jul 22 11:18 UTC] No.32236796[source]▶
There's always the analog loophole.
5. hammyhavoc ◴[26 Jul 22 17:25 UTC] No.32241153{3}[source]▶
Well, the Xbox One wasn't hacked either. That was released in 2013. If it was going to be hacked, it likely would have already happened given that its most popular moment has come and gone.