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    The Dangers of Microsoft Pluton

    (gabrielsieben.tech)
    733 points gjsman-1000 | 11 comments | | HN request time: 1.488s | source | bottom
    1. rtpg ◴[] No.32234399[source]
    I'm not hyped about most of the DRM stuff (and yeah, frog boiling is definitely a worry, though I don't know how we could ever end up with devices that can't boot alternative OSes just cuz of how servers are set up).

    But I am personally glad to see hardware-level key stores show up on all CPUs. Maybe this is already a thing and I'm being duped by Apple for thinking it's good, but it feels good to me.

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    2. gjsman-1000 ◴[] No.32234447[source]
    I'm not really worried myself that alternative Operating Systems will be locked out. However, I am concerned that the functionality of alternative Operating Systems will be locked out. If you see the (speculative but grounded) area near the end of the article - imagine if assertion becomes popular for things such as games or digital movies or the school WiFi. Your Linux PC will never be able to do that, and WINE (probably) won't be able to help. Won't stop you from hosting a server, but it will make it much harder to enjoy a Linux desktop. That's an issue.
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    3. fartcannon ◴[] No.32234462[source]
    This is about money. This is about having to upgrade your CPU to get updates to your OS. The Android/iPhone business model.
    4. vladvasiliu ◴[] No.32235020[source]
    > imagine if assertion becomes popular for things such as [...] digital movies

    You don't need that. Streaming is already crippled on Linux. Hell, Netflix won't even stream full quality on Chrome!

    > https://help.netflix.com/en/node/13444

        4K Ultra HD on a computer
    
        Netflix is available in Ultra HD on Windows and Mac computers with:
    
          Microsoft Edge for Windows
    
          Windows app for Windows 10 and Windows 11
    
          Safari for MacOS 11.0 or later
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    5. arpa ◴[] No.32235481{3}[source]
    ... and this is why piracy will always continue to be a viable alternative.
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    6. plmu ◴[] No.32235648{3}[source]
    I have netflix, but also a usenet server account and many TB of disk. I might cancel the first, if the added value becomes too small.
    7. hammyhavoc ◴[] No.32235787{4}[source]
    Until access to the internet or methods of circumventing DRM are crippled without submitting to these technologies. That's the road we're heading down. Can't hack the current-gen Xbox, apparently. I'm wondering if someone will take that as a "challenge accepted".
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    8. Beltiras ◴[] No.32236250{5}[source]
    > Can't hack the current-gen Xbox, apparently.

    Yet.

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    9. Avamander ◴[] No.32236793{3}[source]
    Fun fact, that app hasn't been updated in years. It's super buggy.

    It's a nice demonstration how vendors won't bother to improve if the user has no choice.

    10. Avamander ◴[] No.32236796{5}[source]
    There's always the analog loophole.
    11. hammyhavoc ◴[] No.32241153{6}[source]
    Well, the Xbox One wasn't hacked either. That was released in 2013. If it was going to be hacked, it likely would have already happened given that its most popular moment has come and gone.