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181 points feraligators | 1 comments | | HN request time: 0.204s | source

I've long considered leaving this country for a multitude of reasons.

I'd be curious to hear some first hand experiences of those who've made the move to Europe and what you think of the process and considerations one should make.

A few questions to start the conversation:

- Where do you live?

- What's the biggest sacrifice you had to make (i.e. pay, housing, friends, etc.)

- What have you gained?

1. AdrianB1 ◴[] No.30073817[source]
I hope you will find this useful and not off-topic; here is a summary:

- Europe is very different, not a country and not even a union (parts of Europe are NOT in European Union)

- Northern Europe has cold climate, more difficult languages, higher taxes and usually better services

- in Southern Europe people are a lot more relaxed (some can confuse that with lazy, but it is not), a lot friendlier but poorer

- in Germany and Austria it is very important to speak the language well in order to integrate. They are also very strict in many ways (lots of rules and regulations).

- most of France is really nice; salaries are a bit low

- Switzerland has top salaries and life standards. It is probably the best place to live if you are highly qualified.

- the Netherlands and Belgium have pretty bad weather. In the Netherlands most people speak a very good English

- Eastern Europe has lower salaries and cost of living, but imported products (an iPhone or a Tesla car) are very expensive. However people are friendly, life is accessible and the nature is great if you are into it: lots of hills and mountains to hike, access is permitted in most places. Criminality is in general extremely low for violent crimes, robbery and corruption are fairly common in some places.

- Poland and Hungary have some right wing governments that are not very popular with the EU politicians, but for the citizens is not really a problem (except abortion restrictions in Poland, but that is a sensitive topic for a very religious country)

- Ukraine is not a good place yet, not enough English speakers, but it may improve in the next 10 years. Belarus is not a good idea, full stop. Moldova is very poor. Albania is nice, but the language is a barrier and the country is quite poor. Montenegro is soo tiny. Other than these 5 countries, Europe is OK to live a decent life, especially if you have family. Even less known countries like Slovenia are still nice if you like that kind of small country with lots of mountains.