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Ask HN: Who has moved from the U.S. to Europe?

181 points feraligators | 6 comments | 25 Jan 22 15:44 UTC | HN request time: 0.418s | source | bottom

I've long considered leaving this country for a multitude of reasons.

I'd be curious to hear some first hand experiences of those who've made the move to Europe and what you think of the process and considerations one should make.

A few questions to start the conversation:

- Where do you live?

- What's the biggest sacrifice you had to make (i.e. pay, housing, friends, etc.)

- What have you gained?

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thegypsyking ◴[25 Jan 22 15:53 UTC] No.30073194[source]▶
I did the opposite and found the us much better. Pay and opportunities are infinitely better, people are friendlier, having a car is much easier and more convenient.
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jfk13 ◴[25 Jan 22 15:59 UTC] No.30073285[source]▶
> Pay and opportunities are infinitely better

...if you're lucky enough to be among the privileged.

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1. JKCalhoun ◴[25 Jan 22 16:07 UTC] No.30073438[source]▶
True. But if we're talking software engineering, everyone posting here is probably "privileged" in that regard.

Let me just take this moment to say, holy shit what a fascinating time we all live in and what a happy accident it was that I stumbled into software engineering in this particular era.

I'm not aware of a recent time in history when you could get what amounts to a doctor's salary without the lengthy schooling, rigorous training, certification.

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2. notch656a ◴[25 Jan 22 16:30 UTC] No.30073811[source]▶
What if you get that salary precisely because this field is free of the sort of inefficiencies and government regulation that drag on healthcare and doctors.
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3. nebula8804 ◴[25 Jan 22 17:05 UTC] No.30074391[source]▶
The capital owning class are gunning to eliminate these salaries. "You will own nothing and be happy" is not something they just reserve for the lower classes. The future is hard to predict but don't rule out these outrageous salaries being gone in a decade or two and the market being much more middle/lower middle class type jobs.
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4. JKCalhoun ◴[25 Jan 22 21:06 UTC] No.30078017[source]▶
I don't doubt you're right. The last three decades have been a "worker's market" for those of us lucky enough to have stumbled into a trade that Corporate desperately needed the services of.

I am doubly fortunate to be ending my career in this field. I have no idea what the future holds for those still in the field. It may well become a narrow path you need to hew to.

5. JKCalhoun ◴[25 Jan 22 21:07 UTC] No.30078027[source]▶
I would imagine there should be plenty of other fields just like it then.
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6. notch656a ◴[25 Jan 22 22:21 UTC] No.30078946{3}[source]▶
You've imagined correctly.