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vmception ◴[] No.27673471[source]
> Before the pandemic, I’d shudder at the sight of a restaurant table full of people all staring at their phones. I was always happy not to be them or be sitting with them. I always kept the lively conversation flowing at my table.

I always thought this perspective was funny because it always assumed what the people on their phones were doing. The assumption is that they are disengaged with each other when it's just as likely that they are talking with each other in a group chat alongside a few other non-present participants in the same group chat, and all trying to share photos with each other that they just took from the outting beforehand, or setting up a way to split costs in advance, or something else equally or more interactive than a conversation you can eavesdrop on.

Usually it's just shitty UX slowing them down.

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fleddr ◴[] No.27676635[source]
The modern "consensus" seems to be that at such events, many if not most people do leave their phone in their pocket for a good first hour or so. So a basic awareness still exists.

Then comes the predictable ice breaker event. Somebody, as part of their conversation, needs their phone to show you something. The car they want to buy. Looking up a fact to settle your argument.

The first phone comes out, starting the phone avalanche. Everybody knows its ok now, and check their messages or whatever. The seal is broken.

The addiction is so widespread that we're still at full denial stage at society level.

Because the true reason almost everybody is itchy to pull out that phone is so bitter that it cannot be said out loud, but I will:

Whatever is on that phone, you find more interesting than your friends. And quite likely, because it really is more interesting. Because your phone can do anything and is full of surprises, yet your friend is not.

Downvote me, the truth hurts.

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1. vmception ◴[] No.27679568[source]
> Downvote me, the truth hurts.

I don’t think anyone cares enough actually

We aren’t triggered by this possible reality

There are limits to the etiquette and whats considered rude but it has shifted

Its the level of engagement, not the presence of the device itself