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toxik ◴[] No.27415754[source]
Chinese originated spam and abuse is so outrageously widespread, I don’t understand why there isn’t a conversation going on about cutting them off from the wider internet. They blocked most of it anyway.
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mwcampbell ◴[] No.27416937[source]
It stands to reason that an especially large volume of abuse will originate from the most populous country in the world. I don't think that's a reason to cut them off from the global Internet. If it's true that their government is already oppressing their own people (I don't know what's truth and what's propaganda), then the rest of us shouldn't make it worse for those people by cutting off whatever outside connections they manage to have.

Also, I'm generally bothered by comments like this one that stir up the general human tendency toward xenophobia. We should be fighting that tendency within ourselves, not fighting the out group. Whichever group of people we want to demonize, we should remember that they're people just like us. We shouldn't punish the majority of them for what a minority are doing to us.

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wilsonthewhale ◴[] No.27419050[source]
yup. toxik's comment disgusts me. So much for being against the government and the bad apples and not against the common citizen. Let's just cut off all the devs doing their jobs every day from accessing github, or let's just cut off everyone who was curious enough to bypass the GFW and look around on the outer internet, or let's just cut off someone simply trying to contact an international friend. The truth is: people like toxik could not care less about any person who happens to live inside the borders of "public enemy no. 1".

Sigh.

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1. toxik ◴[] No.27420144[source]
Your comment contains no information and only presents an extended ad hominem. Go read the site rules please. This isn’t the place for moral grandstanding.

Most Chinese internet users would not miss Western internet for a second, a fact you would be aware of if you actually had any insight into Chinese culture.

This attitude that you cannot give consequences to abuse because THINK OF THE POOR CHINESE is so utterly laughable.

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2. wilsonthewhale ◴[] No.27423548[source]
> if you actually had any insight into Chinese culture

Thanks for the blind assumption. I'm Chinese myself.