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lousken ◴[] No.27161749[source]
Is automotive industry all that EU cares about? What about IoT/robotics? The fact that TSMC want to build only their older fab here is really disappointing to me.
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vineyardmike ◴[] No.27162162[source]
TSMC is also likely saving their best tech for where they can control it the best and shop it around the best. The US has lots of high tech customers (Apple, Qualcomm, AMD even Intel) who are willing to pay top price for supply. Add in the US and their heavy national security needs/desire/politics and of course the energy and money is obvious for good fabs in the US.

England has some semiconductor industry and so does Germany, but less of it is top-spec tech from cash rich companies. Obviously “Europe” still cares about national security but is the money and politics comparable to the US military industrial complex?

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supergirl ◴[] No.27163344[source]
is TSMC doing anything innovative themselves? I thought they just purchase the machines or at least specs from ASML, a Dutch company. So the "best tech" is designed in EU anyway.
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andy_ppp ◴[] No.27163418[source]
If it was that simple loads of companies would be smashing out 5nm chips...
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1. supergirl ◴[] No.27164174[source]
not saying it's simple. there are big companies in EU like Siemens that I bet are capable of doing it, if it makes sense economically. I guess so far it didn't. probably the reason was that it's cheaper to get the chips from Asia, same as it's cheaper to make iphones in Asia, etc.
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2. adriancr ◴[] No.27164455[source]
Intel isn't capable yet and they are pouring money and have all the incentives to get leading edge node...

You think Siemens which has none of those will be capable to churn out leading edge fabs just like that?

Lets face it, it's not a simple task.