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TSMC looks to double down on U.S. chip factories as talks in Europe falter

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lousken ◴[15 May 21 02:26 UTC] No.27161749[source]▶
Is automotive industry all that EU cares about? What about IoT/robotics? The fact that TSMC want to build only their older fab here is really disappointing to me.
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mrtksn ◴[15 May 21 03:41 UTC] No.27162127[source]▶
EU is loosely coupled peace union with a lot of sovereignty left to the individual states. If I remember correctly, ones Rupert Murdoch famously said that it’s impossible to find a phone number to call.

So, It’s probably not up to the EU to care about automotive, that must be Germany. France and Spain likely cares about other things and no one cares about cutting edge chips. EU can push from the top by easing state aid rules, I guess, however it must be a particular country to strike a deal.

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Griffinsauce[dead post] ◴[15 May 21 04:47 UTC] No.27162464[source]▶
> If I remember correctly, ones Rupert Murdoch famously said that it’s impossible to find a phone number to call.

Do the HN rules of assuming good faith apply to him as well? /s

https://europa.eu/european-union/contact/call-us_en

Please don't signal boost easily falsifiable claims like this. The function of it is to sow division and prevent proper nuanced discussion.

1. RedShift1 ◴[15 May 21 05:44 UTC] No.27162758[source]▶
R.M. probably meant it more as a figure of speech.
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2. Griffinsauce ◴[15 May 21 06:01 UTC] No.27162818[source]▶
Yeah, that's nice cover.

This is a meme that is meant to heighten emotions in politics. It's small but intentionally destructive and each repetition of one of these little demonizations further prevents cool-headed nuanced discourse.

It's death by a thousand cuts for our society.

3. mrtksn ◴[15 May 21 11:08 UTC] No.27164185[source]▶
Exactly, it's not about actually finding a number to call but to convey the nature of the organisation. It might not even be a real quote by anyone but it is used to portray EU. It is a bad thing or good thing, depending on your opinions on governmental centralisation and the relations of businesspeople with politicians.

Unfortunately we can no longer have conversation on politics without rage, so I agree that it is a bit provocative. That said, I don't see how we can talk about the TSMCs failure to strike a deal with the EU without pointing out about this fundamental difference between EU and USA.